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Choy Li Fut VS Muay Thai

I know little about Choy Li Fut and it's effectiveness, but the argument that it isn't effective because most people haven't heard of it like Muay Thai or boxing is weak. Until MMA became popular, I'd say the general American public had no idea what MT was. Same with Sanda.
 
Tae Kwon Do is more well known than Muay Thai. You're overstating recognizability.

I'm not saying I'd recommend Choy Lee Fut over MT. All I'm saying is that it is a valid fighting style which has been updated for modern times, and should not be lumped into other older styles of Kung Fu.
 
Payak said:
my point is if you ask most people what they think about choy li fut, there answer will be choy what what.
after so many years why is that, boxing and muay thai are well known, why is that.
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I'd guess because those tags are sport fighting tags like sanda. People fight muay thai who never trained in it but did karate etc etc but the tag muay thai sticks since it was a wuay thai fight perhaps? I'm not saying this applies to every case but I have seen it like this before....
 
I was joking, actually, but dry humor doesn't come across well on the information super highway.

Although I did say you could use "Fut on the ground."
 
I hate when they put too much of that shit in my stirfry.
 
Watsurgol said:
I was joking, actually, but dry humor doesn't come across well on the information super highway.

Although I did say you could use "Fut on the ground."
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Damn, in context it is pretty funny.
 
looked like everyone missed the point so i will spell it out.
it has had many years to develop a reputation through action, however it has not, actions speak louder then words.
this is why for eg the world has seen a mad rush for arts to either learn bjj or at least incorperate it into there art.
choy li fut still not really catching on, has not got people rushing out to find there nearest school.
if it was so effective, people would be drawn to it.
 
Payak said:
looked like everyone missed the point so i will spell it out.
it has had many years to develop a reputation through action, however it has not, actions speak louder then words.
this is why for eg the world has seen a mad rush for arts to either learn bjj or at least incorperate it into there art.
choy li fut still not really catching on, has not got people rushing out to find there nearest school.
if it was so effective, people would be drawn to it.
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Not exactly true. MT and BJJ have both made a point to become known, so both are very popular. Boxing and folk wrestling are "proven" and been a round for a long time, but neither has the current popularity of MT or BJJ. If an art/style/school does not go out and promote then even if it is very good it will not have a lot of schools. Burmese boxing is another good example of that. every bit as tough and effective as MT (basicly the same art) but almost nobody has heard of it.
 
barnowl said:
Not exactly true. MT and BJJ have both made a point to become known, so both are very popular. Boxing and folk wrestling are "proven" and been a round for a long time, but neither has the current popularity of MT or BJJ. If an art/style/school does not go out and promote then even if it is very good it will not have a lot of schools. Burmese boxing is another good example of that. every bit as tough and effective as MT (basicly the same art) but almost nobody has heard of it.
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i tend to agree with this point as well; an arts success isn't just a matter of its effectiveness, its the promotion of said art. Wrestling bjj muay thai haven't been more popular than they are now and alot of that has to do with the ufc; seeing these arts be used by what people consider "real" fighters or to be exact the majority of "real" fighters has added some cache to those arts. But there are other effective arts that have been used, not as frequently; but effectively, these arts haven't gotten the backing even though they have proved their effectiveness. Judo tae kwon do catchwrestling karate (kyokushin shotokan kenpo koei kan ashira etc) kung fu; now they aren't used as often or by as many VISIBLE mma guys, i.e. ufc. But they are used enoughh to make the statement that popularity doesnt equal effectiveness. An whe i mention these arts i am making that point based on fights being won by specific tech from those arts (i.e. ko) or using those arts in combination with others to win fights.

so just because a large segment of people don't seek it out or use it doesn't necessarily mean it doesn't work; when it comes to what martial art works and which doesn't, alot of people who don't know will say if it doesn't work in the cage it doesn't work period. I can't make that leap i go by my firsthand experience with an art or stylist or the experience of someone who i know/respect their knowledge through discussion or through sparring.

the ufc promotes things and they get popular, i can't tell you how many people i knew who all of a sudden considered taking karate after seeing lyoto wreck guys and watch ryan jimmo do the same.
 
im going to go and watch some choy li fut fights now, i will watch many in fact.
may not be my style but one thing im sure of is i know what works and what does not.
hope hope it is good, i may learn something.
 
i give up, just googled choy li fut v, choy li fut fights and just choy li fut.
also done the same in youtube.
there are hundreds if not thousands of clips, but they are either demos or forms, very few actuall fight clips.
there were a few but they were guys swinging wildly like drunk woman, i dont think they even opened there eyes at times.
does anyone here have any clips they can post, no movies stunt scenes, no pre arranged demos with a complient partner, no dragon or drunken monkey forms.
just fights.
i have a feeling they are not common because i just looked hard.
however when you type in muay thay or silat or even karate, many fights.
im not saying its not effective, just hard to judge when i can not find a single good example on the world wide web.
 
I did the same. And i found mostly the same as you. But i also found this. But i look more or less like sanda/sanshou:

 
Funny because i just typed in" choy lif fut san shou" ans got a ton of clips with fighting and pad work etc ,etc Odd how i didnt even look hard and i found many isnt it?:icon_chee

for example
Hung Sing Choy Lay Fut Kung Fu Vol.1 - YouTube

Escola Choy Lay Fut de Kung Fu - SC / 5 anos de LUTAS - YouTube

http://www.sherdog.net/forums/newre...517http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvaGRDkBCec

Sanda / Choy Lay Fut - Striking / Pad Work (Gill) - NFMA - YouTube

Yes they swing wild. thats is the point of the style Choy li fut is known for its looping hooks and over hand punches. you would think from looking hard as you said you did that would become apparent
 
Damn, here's an entire compilation:
 
Payak said:
my point is if you ask most people what they think about choy li fut, there answer will be choy what what.
after so many years why is that, boxing and muay thai are well known, why is that.
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Muay Thai isn't very well known here in the U.S. at all, actually. I gave up on telling people here that I trained in muay thai because they'd just give me a blank stare, or assume it was some kind of karate or kung fu. I eventually reverted to telling people I did "kickboxing" just so I wouldn't have to explain it to them. But even then, sometimes people would say, "oh, kickboxing, eh?" and then they'd make these karate sounds, "ha! oo! hi-yah!"

Point is, you'd get the same reaction out of someone here whether you told them you do muay thai or sum yung guy.
 
LEGS MAHONEY said:
Funny because i just typed in" choy lif fut san shou" ans got a ton of clips with fighting and pad work etc ,etc Odd how i didnt even look hard and i found many isnt it?:icon_chee

for example
Hung Sing Choy Lay Fut Kung Fu Vol.1 - YouTube

Escola Choy Lay Fut de Kung Fu - SC / 5 anos de LUTAS - YouTube

http://www.sherdog.net/forums/newre...517http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvaGRDkBCec

Sanda / Choy Lay Fut - Striking / Pad Work (Gill) - NFMA - YouTube

Yes they swing wild. thats is the point of the style Choy li fut is known for its looping hooks and over hand punches. you would think from looking hard as you said you did that would become apparent
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OK... So you have some sloppy boxing sparring, forms, sloppy amature fights, and padwork. Where are the fights showing that these guys can compete with top Nak Muay? I'm not seeing it...
 
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