This is what leftists do. You try to say, "Both Christians and Muslims are bad. Therefore, we must allow equal immigration of all Muslims." No, 2 wrongs don't make a right.
Your examples are wrong anyway.
https://www.infoplease.com/northern-irish-conflict-chronology
"Political separation of Northern Ireland from the rest of Ireland did not come until the early 20th century, when Protestants and Catholics divided into two warring camps over the issue of Irish home rule." This was an isolated controversy on an island. This is not global. It does not state anywhere in the bible that Jesus said for Protestants and Catholics to kill each other over politics.
Your other example about Myanmar is equally wrong as a comparison with Islam. "Members of their Karen ethnic group have long sought autonomy in Myanmar, formerly Burma".
https://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/03/world/asia/briefly-myanmars-gods-army-twins-reunite.html
This was another isolated event that depended on their ethnic group. This is not a global movement. The bible does not state that Jesus told his followers to fight against Caesar for political control.
http://military.wikia.com/wiki/National_Liberation_Front_of_Tripura
"The NLFT seeks to secede from India and establish an independent Tripuri state". Again this is another isolated event. These terrorists want political control and just happen to be Christian at the same time. This is not a global movement. Jesus did not tell his followers to be Christian terrorists to have autonomy and create new countries.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/mar/08/joseph-kony-lords-resistance-army
"Kony is a former choirboy from northern Uganda who leads a personality cult and militia that he calls the Lord's Resistance Army." Haha, this guy formed a cult, and you call this "Christianity"? There are over 1 billion Christians in the world, and this small cult is used as an example by you? You are using the guilt-by-association fallacy.
The KKK is not a recognized church of Christianity by the major denominations. The bible again does not say that Jesus told us to separate ourselves based on race. It was white Christians who ended slavery in America.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...d_the_kkk_lose_so_many_chapters_in_2010_.html
"Over the long term, the KKK is clearly contracting, since its rolls have shrunk from millions in the 1920s to between 3,000 and 5,000 today."
It is so easy to debunk you. You choose minorities of "Christians" who are disavowed by the major Christian denominations.
You are desperate to find any Christian that commits violence to then say, "Aha! Christians and Muslims are just the same." How dare you respond to me by doing a 30-second search on google for a list of "Christian terrorists" or whatever you did. This is such a low-level, amateurish response that I don't think you are debating me in good faith.
This is exactly the same as a dog lover saying, "Pit bulls are nice dogs. They're just the same as any other dog. My pit bull is nice at home."
https://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-statistics-multi-year-fatality-report-2005-2017.php
You are using the pit bull fallacy. You claim that pit bulls and poodles are all the same as dogs, but the statistics show something very different. This is exactly the same as you pointing to Christians vs the number of terror attacks committed by Muslims.
http://www.timesofisrael.com/450-of...n-2015-were-by-muslim-extremists-study-shows/
Over 99% of suicide terrorism was committed by Muslims in 2015.
My position is reasonable. Pit bulls should not be placed in every house where there are children or the elderly. Muslim immigrants should not be allowed in and then made citizens to collect welfare checks.
I want all of you to try to debunk this. This is the reality of the world. Vote Democrat if you want more of this. "Democrat Ammar Campa-Najjar Referred to Terrorist Grandfather as ‘Legend’ in 2015".
https://www.breitbart.com/midterm-e...d-to-terrorist-grandfather-as-legend-in-2015/
Are you daft? Serious question.
First off, I'll repeat for the third time that if want to reply to my post, don't pick a single line and pretend like the rest doesn't exist. Even with you cherry picking a line, and then cherrypicking only parts of what was stated, you failed.
The ONLY reason I brought up those christian terror groups, and yes they are christian terrorist groups, is because you SPECIFICLY stated this:
60 Minutes did a video about sharia patrols. Do you want sharia patrols in your neighborhood? Yes or no. I don't see Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Shintoists, Shamanists, Voodooists, or atheists acting this aggressively like a gang.
This is a COMPLETELY INANE statement. This statement is so dumb that it's hard to fathom how someone could utter it. Even going with your most stereotypical peaceful group, ever heard about Wirathu? The "Buddhist Bin Laden"? Simular to Yugoslavia, here muslims are being persecuted and killed by Buddhists. Anyway, I provided examples, and I kept to only providing examples of terrorism, even though by your standard of acting "aggressively like a gang" you could expand that to all out war. You didn't debunk shit, your citation had no relevance to the argument that these are christian groups "acting aggressively like a gang", or rather, being terrorists. You just tried to make excuses and again used complete non-sequiturs. You like fallacies so much, so how about the no true scotsmann fallacy you are applying over and over?
You CONVENIENTLY didn't reply to the war you yourself brought up as an example of muslims committing war, when in fact it was almost entirely muslim being killed and "ethnically" cleansed by the orthodox serbs in Yogoslavia, which I already pointed out.
While KKK was comdemned by some, GTFO with KKK not being christian. Listen to this because this is very important. From The Journal of Southern History:
"By 1925 perhaps as many as four or five million white, Protestant, native-born patriots were engaged in or tacitly supporting acts of intimidation, terror and torture against their Negro, Catholic, Jewish, and foreign-born neighbors". (1)
Listen further to this: "
They justified these acts on the ground that America was in dire peril and could be saved only if it remained, oddly enough, predominantly white, Protestant, and native-born." Does this sound familiar to you? Alarm bells ringing in your head?
Let's not go down the road about white christians freeing the slaves/having slaves. What was it Jesus said again? Ephisians 6:5:
"Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ." and Exodus 21:20 says that you shall be punished if you kill your slave with a rod, however exodus 20:21 says:
"However, if the slave gets up after a day or two, the owner shall not be punished, since the slave is his property."
I don't want to give you a bible lession. Read the bible yourself.
You are claiming that I'm saying "extreme muslims are not bad because other extreme groups did this". THAT IS NOT THE CASE. I claim ALL EXTREMES ARE BAD. You are one of those extremes. I whole heartedly concede that Islam has a higher preponderance of terrorist affiliations. If you want to read more about terrorism, I've provided the link already:
https://ourworldindata.org/terrorism
Gtfo with that fallacy nonsense you are trying to make stick to sound smart. "Pitbull fallacy", that's not even a logical fallacy dude. And your analogy is terrible because you are misrepresenting my argument.
All this "leftist", "you want more muslim immigrants", "you want sharia" bullshit. You are grasping at straws and putting words into my mouth. I SPECIFCLY have repeated these following sentiments.
Look, I dislike religious dogma as much as anyone, but you cannot tackle issues without being honest about the way you create your world view. You need to create an accurate description of a problem before you can change it.
You guys are doing exactly the same thing any extremist does, whether that be nazism, communism, fundamental islam, fundamental christianity and so on. Using propaganda and misleading information to spread hatred about "the others". You are two sides of the exact same coin and you only strenghten the other position you are supposedly fighting against.
The reason I mentioned christians and atheist was not to defend islam. I mentioned them because you singling out muslims as supporters of nazism no more aligns nazism with islam than it does atheism or christianity. Therefor it's not a valid argument to make if you want to attribute it to them alone, and if not alone, what's your point with bringing it up? There a plenty of legitimate criticism of islam.
It has nothing to do with being liberal or conservative.
YES, Pakistan is every bit as bad as China and the Muslim faith is notoriously anti-free speech, what's your point? I am not a support of Islam, or any other organized religion for that matter. See, this here is at the core of the problem you and I are having. I can condemn both parts of an extreme, you can't because you're blinded by hatred. You are the same as them.
Again, are you daft? NO I don't support Sharia in any form. I despise extremism in any way, shape or form. That doesn't change the fact that your shitty recollection of history is shitty. I'll have to repeat the same thing again:
These are all replys TO YOU. I feel like I'm talking to a brick wall.
1. I believe that the Chinese Communist government putting innoncent people into concentration camps based on their religious affiliation and ethnicity is wrong.
2. You claim it's not wrong.
3. I claim that all extremes are bad, and that two wrongs doesn't make a right.
4. You say that no other religion than Islam has ever done anything bad or "acted aggressively like a gang" and claim I support sharia, am a leftist, want muslims to flood the streets.
5. I point out where other religions have "acted aggressively like gangs" including slaughtering thousands of civilian muslims and innocents. I reiterate I don't support Islam, nor any other form of extremism. I reiterate both are wrong.
6. You call me a leftist and say I want sharia law.
That's this conversation. I feel dirty after this conversation and I want to make things clear for you. I disapprove of what China is doing and think it's wrong, I disapprove of terrorism, I disapprove of sharia law, I think you're an idiot.
