Chimaev's bullrush strategy will fail against Usman, and he will gas and get stopped

Usman looked pretty unstoppable also 1,5 years ago when beat Jorge and Colby. Evernote just a year ago who looked amazing against Keon till he got caught by the headkick. Last fight he was understandably more timid against Leon, because of the fear of getting knocked out again. Usman hasn’t really shown any major signs of decline, he’s still an amazing fighter

The fear of getting knocked out is the decline. When your confidence is broken to the point where you're questioning your actions instead of flowing, that's a decline. It'll take getting rocked one time and Usman will be back to the tentative shell he was in against Leon.

Khamzat is still high on his indestructible confidence so he'll just take the fight to Usman
 
The fear of getting knocked out is the decline. When your confidence is broken to the point where you're questioning your actions instead of flowing, that's a decline. It'll take getting rocked one time and Usman will be back to the tentative shell he was in against Leon.

Khamzat is still high on his indestructible confidence so he'll just take the fight to Usman

Yeah that doesnt seem to bode well for Usman to me, I think he may have to hurt Khamzat quite early on to have a chance here, if he gets pressured back against the cage I'm not sure things will go well for him.

He seems potentially on a similar kind of path to Woodley before him to me.
 
I'm having legit trouble predicting this one.

Khamzat been out for a minute, Usman coming off losses but being a former champ and unstoppable not that long ago, how the weight change might help or hurt both... lots of variables giving me trouble lol
 
things going for usman:
1. kamzhat has zero head movement
2. will gas

things against usman:
1. short notice
2. kamzhats wrestling, if he uses it
 
In theory yes. But Usman isnt that same guy that looked unstoppable 3 years ago. I hope for a back and forth. If Khamzat survives Usman's pace and offense(after Usman survives the bullrush), this will be an all time great.

Who knows what Usman has left in the tank. He is getting older but lots of times it's not even about physical prime, losing changes a fighter mentally. Especially with the type of WW run he had. Usman has the skills and IQ to beat Chimeav but he will need to dig deep.
 
Biggest factors in this fight for me are size and if Usman's knees are ready for Chimaev's aggressive grappling.

If Chimaev takes a slower approach to this fight, Usman will pick him apart on the feet. Chimaev will need to explode to get a takedown, and I do believe he will be able to steal rounds with just one or two explosive takedowns.

Usman has insane cardio, I do believe Chimaev will need to burn himself out if he wants to attempt to finish Usman, if he doesn't.. Usman will probably take a 3-2 or 4-1 decision.

I predict a 3-2 decision upset in favor of Usman. Chimaev will take rounds 1,3 and Usman 2,4,5.
Must have missed it, is it confirmed for five rounds? Even on short notice I think that could be a big advantage for Usman assuming he's been keeping busy in the gym.
 
If Usman gets out of the first round, he wins
 
If Usman has anything of his old self left I like Usman here as long as he withstands the initial rush. Khaz keeps his chin really high or has in past fights he does that here he goes to sleep assuming Usman has something left in tank.

In 3 rds prime Usman could all out 15 min with his cardio Khaz can't. Now if Usman has lost it the he gets embarrassed by the initial rush n loses in 30 sec he makes it past that I like his chances
 
Calling it now.
Bad, bad matchup for Chimaev. He has never faced anyone close to this level who can outwrestle him and has the gas tank to go 5 rounds at a high pace.
Yeah because Usman is still in his prime and had a full camp preparing for Khamzat specifically right?
Fuck outta here TS
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The fear of getting knocked out is the decline. When your confidence is broken to the point where you're questioning your actions instead of flowing, that's a decline. It'll take getting rocked one time and Usman will be back to the tentative shell he was in against Leon.

Khamzat is still high on his indestructible confidence so he'll just take the fight to Usman
Bullshit. Ngannou was terrified to get KOed by Lewis after losing to Stipe. He then embarked on his incredible run of KOing everyone the f*ck out. He had zero fear from Rozenstruick, who himself is a KO artist.

Point is, we don’t know if Usman is on a decline or not, he just lost to Leon twice, that’s all we know.
 
Yeah because Usman is still in his prime and had a full camp preparing for Khamzat specifically right?
Fuck outta here TS
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Lol
Usman is only 36, that is borderline prime in MMA especially for a wrestler.
He was on top of the world not long ago, one or two less than stellar fights doesn't suddenly mean he isn't at that level anymore.
Crazy how fickle minded and short term memory some are.

Chimaev is a huge underdog in this fight by any logical analysis.
Oh and by the way, Khamzit is moving up as well.
 
Possible, but is Marty the same fighter he was during his unbeatable looking run?
 
You're a fucking clown. Chimaev's wrestling is at a completely different level, as per his actual wrestling pedigree. He's also wrestled at LHW for crying out loud.
 
I see Khamzat takedown strategy similar to Khabib. Khabib took everyone down one way or another. Khabib also seemed almost weight class above most fighters.

When Khabib fought TIbau he had trouble taking him down.

Now I see Khamzat in similar situation to Khabib - Tibau. Tibau has also good bjj. I think Usman has good bjj as well.

Not sure how will 5 rounds factor in.

Will be competitive match imo. I think in most scenarios Khamzat takes this one, unless he cumulate some injury in training camp.
 
Usman's chin has always been a little sus. He got rocked by Colby and hurt super bad by Burns before he ever got knocked out by Leon.

I think Usman is the better fighter. But he's hittable, and I won't be surprised if Khamzat shuts his lights out early.
 
Usman is done. He still got his skills but you cant stay on top with weak knees.
 
Maybe, maybe not. I’d love to hear @TheMMAnalyst ’s thoughts on this fight.

The wrestling will be a big factor in this fight, even if no one wrestles. Why do I think so? Because both are great wrestlers and they usually can decide where fight takes place.

Usman vs Covington 1 was a kickboxing fight since both respected each others grappling ability. A five round fight where you try to wrestle a competent wrestler can gas you out big time. That is ”no bueno” and I think the main reason why this happens. Chimaev vs Burns also was a stand up fight for the same reasons.

So, will Khamzat go the wrestling route and try to get Usman down or at least create scrambles? I think so. He’s younger, fresher, a lot less miles on him than Usman has. The wear and tear from wrestling since he was a kid plus a lot of fights, training camps etc. will take it’s toll.

Usman however is very, very capable of using his wrestling to force a stand up fight. Can he counterwrestle successfully and gas Khamzat out? Sure, I could see that happening. At least deny a couple attempts to let Khamzat know that it’s not going to be easy.

Standing up I give the edge to Usman. His hands aren’t bad at all, his striking has come a long way. He doesn’t kick, probably something to do with the bad knees. Defensively he’s better than Chimaev, too, who we haven’t seen too much of yet.

Khamzat has power and that berzerk attitude, so he could catch Usman. I think it is likely that he will, but can MW Usman take a good shot and keep going? I think so.

The longer the fight goes on, the more I lean Usman. Interesting fight, even if I would’ve liked the Costa fight more. Lets go! We’ll learn a lot from this one.

Greetings Mr. @Spath, we meet again before a massive event to kick-off the festivities with some pre-fight analytical discourse - one of my favorite things to do!

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As you noted both are exceptionally accomplished wrestlers, but a lot has changed with Usman that makes us need to analyze his wrestling specifically.

It would seem in his last fights his wrestling has degraded considerably; now I don't want to fully discredit Leon, his TDD and ability to scramble and get-up have improved immensely.

Usman/Edwards 1 - Usman goes 6/13 (in a 15 minute fight!)
Usman/Edwards 2 - Usman goes 5/12 (in a 25 minute fight)
Usman/Edwards 3 - Usman goes 4/15 (in a 25 minute fight)

Each time less takedowns, each time less control and damage from that control. Leon is getting better, but Usman is also getting worse, which is why I think we are seeing that statistical gap increase - and more important just from using our eyes Usman looks slower, less confident, and just doesn't have any type of explosive shot any more really. His takedowns against Leon were against the cage off of single leg transitions, he isn't just rag-dolling dudes any longer and they are doing a far better job staying outside of his clinch.

I personally feel Usman/Covingnton 1 was a kickboxing fight because both guys decided to waste no energy stalling out in the wrestling and decided to just bang. They literally made no adjustments whatsoever from a tactical MMA fighting stand-point, it was just endlessly mixing up their entries and combinations (that aren't even that deep) and seeing who could sponge more damage.

Chimaev vs. Burns was a stand-up fight for very different reasons - Chimaev was able to get Burns down, repeatedly, he was 2/3 on takedowns. His problems as that Burns refused to concede bottom position and immediately went to foot on hips/chest kick-offs to scramble and get-up. Chimaev has a tremendous grappling edge over most guys but with Burns he might have worse tactical positional grappling and because he doesn't focus on control in brawls it allowed for scrambles. Chimaev at his core wants to pressure guys and get them to try and plant with power to back him off, which will give him his takedown entry that he is looking for.

The Usman/Burns comparison is an odd one, because Usman has far better TDD than Burns but far worse defensively grappling (Leon immediately mounted and took his back, was threatening with choke and Usman looked lost). If Chimaev can get him down then I think Usman is in a world of shit - his defensive reactions to being on bottom are still that of a wrestler who never trains that position because he never plans to be there (and so far has been able to avoid it 99% of the time). But it does forebode poorly that he still reacts so bad if someone gets him down, he is just open to get mounted or back-taken and someone like Chimaev is going to be far more dangerous than Leon (who is more of a control grappler and less of a submission hunter or GnP artist).

I think Khamzat should certainly push the wrestling route early and often - don't let Usman get confident sitting at range and trying to go jab for jab with him, just feint and then shoot on the legs, force defensive reactions and get Usman on the back-foot. The guy going forward will be the guy winning I believe, neither are back-foot fighters or natural counter-strikers, they both are far better pressuring guys against the cage and then looking to unload straight punches.

Usman's best bet is just trying to slow the fight down and keeping things simple, straight punches from edge of boxing range, be methodical with the jab and body attacks (Chimaev biggest weakness is his striking defense, relies a lot on chin and aggression to scare guys off but he has chin up on center line without head movement when throwing power shots frequently), and ultimately avoid the firefight. Usman has pretty good defense in a lot of positions, especially when he doesn't have to defend kicks (those seem to be a big weakness of his).

At his age, moving up to MW, with declining knees, I think if he gets sucked into a fast-paced wrestling attack early it's going to sap his gas tank and make him super-defensive throughout the fight. If Usman is forced to fight off the back foot he won't be able to throw lots of power shots and will get pushed into the cage, which is the last place you want to be against Chimaev.

Now in Usman's favor Khamzat is not a refined technical kickboxer like Leon - he doesn't fight out of southpaw, he doesn't throw incredibly quick tough to read head/body/leg kicks off feints and combination set-ups. He really just needs to worry about the power straight right mostly, which is powerful and fast and dangerous but doesn't come from hat many set-ups or combinations.

Standing I'd say Usman has the more technical game but he doesn't have the speed or power that he used to and Khamzat is naturally bigger and a naturally harder puncher (outside of the Masvidal KO when has Usman ever one punched someone? He hit Colby with like 200+ shots each fight and could only flash knock him down - that's not to say he doesn't hit hard, but it's more cumulative and hard shots rather than "heavy hands" or shots that come so fast and from crazy angles you don't see them coming.

I think the deciding factor for me is the combination of everything - age, career trajectories, style match-up (wrestler against wrestler). In those situations you want the younger, bigger, hungrier guy with more to prove and having size, reach, and punching power seems to really tip the edges to him overall i.e.

SIZE - Khamzat (clear)
SPEED - Khamzat (clear)
STRENGTH - Khamzat (slight)
POWER - Khamzat (clear)
STRIKING OFFENSE - Usman (slight)
STRIKING DEFENSE - Usman (clear)
CLINCH OFFENSE - Even
CLINCH DEFENSE - Usman (slight)
WRESTLING OFFENSE - Khamzat (clear)
WRESTLING DEFENSE - Even
GRAPPLING OFFENSE - Khamzat (clear)
GRAPPLING DEFENSE - Khamzat (clear)

I think Khamzat is going to likely steamroll him early if his confidence isn't there, that's Khamzat at his best and most effective - immediately in your face, feinting and mixing up straight punches and level changes to draw defensive reactions and get his grappling game going immediately.

If he plays a patient boxer/puncher game trying to stalk Usman and go punch for punch with him he could be in for a shock as Usman has a great jab and some nuanced defense, could frustrated him and then draw him into a brawl where Chimaev can get wild and sloppy, give a lot of openings to get hit clean with power if that's the case.

But I think Usman just doesn't have the athleticism or confidence in his game any longer to just take and hold the center and back Chimaev off, he'll really need to fight off the back foot a lot and be circling and using lateral movement to avoid the cage. When have we seen Usman effectively fight off the back foot? He's always had the ability to dictate the fight position because of his wrestling edge, but if that's gone he might find himself constantly pushed back when Chimaev looks to pressure.

I'll take Chimaev by submission, I just feel Usman has heavily declined and his submission game is suspect to the point where if he gets taken down with time to spare I don't see how he avoids ending up in an arm-triangle/d'arce/RNC.

Would love to get proven wrong tho!

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