Cheating - Denial & Innocence

[jjjjjjjjjjohnny]

It is interesting to see the responses from jones and other fighters - of course, brock's pre-response about being "jacked".

How does one deny taking estrogen blockers - let alone cocaine, among other things.

Overall, there have been very few fighters that admit guilt and take their punishment. In the case of jones, silva and other great fighters - one would assume it has a tarnish on their legacy, maybe not on their accomplishments.

The brock case is interesting as he, what i would assume as sarcastically, admitted prior to the fight. Maybe he thought he would get away with it - maybe he didn't care because he would make millions.

The "biggest" event in UFC history, tarnished with both main events coming back with marquee fighters being busted for performance enhancing drugs..... what will UFC 300 bring!!!!

 

[ortizgnp]

Best lawyers in the biz, SON!

 

[chitoortiz]

 

[trunks]

It's between a rock and a hard place for these guys.

On the one hand, their entire livelihood depends on their participation in the sport. So it's not like they can just come out and be like, "Oops, sorry guys. I have been on PEDs for my entire career and made a mistake with my masking agents this time. Fuck. But everyone else is on it too, so it's not really cheating." They say something like that and they're still suspended for two years with limited options on how to make money during that time, and they're already all underpaid as it is.

On the other hand, though, it is distasteful to watch Jones cry on the podium and profess his innocence so assertively. Just like it was ugly to watch Palmeiro wag his fingers at the senators during the baseball investigations, only to come back with a failed test a month afterwards. Just like it's ugly to watch Lesnar play an inverted race card with the "I'm a jacked white boy" bullshit.

Even for us as fans it's hard. On the one hand I get why they would use PEDs. I certainly would in their position. And I've known high-level amateurs who were considered legit prospects who quit the sport because they didn't want to juice. So I get it. And that part of me thinks we shouldn't crucify these guys when they pop, because it's just part of the game at this point.

Again though, there have got to be a few clean fighters around. The Diaz bros and Edgar are at the top of my list for most likely fighters to be clean. And it's unfair to them if they are trying to compete naturally. I mean, I know we can't really make certain claims on this site, but it's frustrating watching Edgar get thrown around like a child by a fighter who is obviously on some stuff.

So I don't know. No easy answers here. Like most of life.

 

[johnyboy]

I wanna say in the sherk franca fight both got busted for roids. Franca admitted to using and sherk claimed supplements. Sherk got less of a punishment

 

[Turok2005]

One thing that is interesting is (I don't know exact numbers) but the first set of tests done on Brock were clean, so "if" he didn't do anything different or didn't change any habits, how are the other tests positive? I am not knowledgeable in this area so it's a little bit confusing if you know you're being tested and will be continued to get tested up to and after the fight. To take something in-between or was there an actual possibility of errors made by the tester's?

 

[Ramon Antonio]

One thing that is interesting is (I don't know exact numbers) but the first set of tests done on Brock were clean, so "if" he didn't do anything different or didn't change any habits, how are the other tests positive? I am not knowledgeable in this area so it's a little bit confusing if you know you're being tested and will be continued to get tested up to and after the fight. To take something in-between or was there an actual possibility of errors made by the tester's?

Well he tested positive on two different dates, including fight day. The question is how long that stuff stays in your system.