CHARLEY BURLEY: Analyzing a Genius

[Sinister]

Considering his lack of success with Judah. Nah.

 

[Handsy]

There's one on Ezzard Charles around post 20 or so.

It's also on the "similar" videos list on the side, some pretty awesome stuff...

 

[barnowl]

It did back when judges knew how to score Fights.

But the system was also lost when a lot of the old trainers passed on, and never had apprentices. You can see whose apprentices passed the test of time now. Nazim Richardson was Bouie's apprentice. Futch had both Roach and McCallum, Roach with more notoriety of course. Nobody really followed in the footsteps of Georgie Benton that I know of, but Steward has Joey Gamache right now. D'Amato had Rooney until he got into poor health, but more importantly he had Atlas, who still trains guys. Atlas has Michael Moorer, who despite his personality problems, is actually a pretty damn good trainer. And even Floyd Jr. has trained some younger guys and is pretty good at it.

It's all about the know-how of coaching being passed on. But the Sport is FLOODED with watered-down versions of guys who only know how to teach you how to punch. Not how to box. MMA is even worse-off because it's also filled with the guys who couldn't coach Boxing, who don't even teach how to punch right. Guys like Howard Davis and Skipper Kelp (and Robert Garcia) being exceptions.

You forgot an important apprentice, Mike McCallum has Sinister.

There are still old "farm league" boxers out there passing on the old boxing knowledge in the family or to neighbor's kids, but you are right prospects for long term professional trainers keeping the old knowledge active is getting smaller and smaller.

I see the education lack in one of our local fighters, Deontay Wilder, he is pretty solid boxer, and a Olympic bronze medalist. Instead of really getting educated in the science, I see him getting feed fighters to beef up his record. I would love to see him spend 6 months with someone like Mike and then given a real match up.

 

[jukebox]

Sorry to bump the thread but this is one of those must see boxing videos. After studying it, I felt so much safer during my sparring. It was great defensively and oddly enough adopting the stance seemed to put off my opponent's kicks. That may be related to me controlling distance better and leaving less openings. I didn't take any head or clean body shots and offensively I seemed to put off my opponents more than my usual bouncing around and launching flurries. I think it can confuse whoever you're sparring with if they're unfamiliar with the old style boxing crouch.

 

[jensen34]

Don't be sorry, this was a great vid and I'm glad you bumped it.

 

[bowlie]

Burley is one of my all-time favorite Fighters. Even the rare film that exists on him shows technical brilliance, and that's a fat Burley against a Light Heavyweight Contender (it's on youtube, just search for Charley Burley and it's the only stuff that comes up).

Also I think he did something crazy like worked a full shift at a factory before that bout. Had Boxing not been so political back then (yes even moreso than now), we'd have seen Robinson vs. someone who was his match. If I could open up the universe and ask for anything in this Sport, it would have been to see the bouts he fought against Holman Williams (also BRILLIANT, and obscure) and Archie Moore. When Moore calls someone the finest Fighter he's ever seen, that guy is worth seeing.

Didnt your partner with levinthar athletics (cant remeber how to spell it) make that video? The norwegian guy that looks like a lion?

 

[Sinister]

Jaja. He's Icelandic, and yes he did.

https://www.facebook.com/Levantar

 

[Discipulus]

You some scary-ass mofos in that picture.