Media Chad Mendes is still under UFC contract. Got permission to box at knucklemania by the UFC

Crazy. I could see them running those 3 fights out on Apex FN cards and maybe preliminary PPV cards if they decide to bring him back.
they're not deciding anything, they're obligated by contract to offer him 3 fights a year, it's all up to him
 
Evil Dana at it again. First he pays Bobby Green's brother's funeral/casket/headstone costs & now this?

HE CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT?!?!

Dana White: Since I pay you minimum wage , you won't ba able to pay for your brother's funeral, so I'll cover the $20k for that, if it happens while you're under contract.

Bobby Green: You're a SAINT! Where do I sign, Saint Dana!?
 
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Neither is Francis
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A contract is a contract. Blatant favoritism is ridiculous and poor business.
Dana is a PROMOTOR right?
Why wouldn't you want to PROMOTE your guy and get more eyes on him?
He jumped all over Conor boxing Mayweather. His slithery ass was apart of that.
Maybe he doesn't believe in Francis. Or maybe he's a shitty promoter who has no desire to do his job correctly and instead just wants high turnover and max profit.

Big difference between letting your HW Champion go box and get humiliated and Psoriasis Mendez having a bareknuckle fight
 
Big difference between letting your HW Champion go box and get humiliated and Psoriasis Mendez having a bareknuckle fight
I mean they let Conor, the face of the UFC then and arguably still now box Mayweather and he got finished lol kinda a mute point.
How many people know who Francis is?
How many people know who Conor is?
It's already been done on a larger scale so no real excuse.
 
I mean they let Conor, the face of the UFC then and arguably still now box Mayweather and he got finished lol kinda a mute point.
How many people know who Francis is?
How many people know who Conor is?
It's already been done on a larger scale so no real excuse.
I get it Dana doesn’t want to let him off his leash
 
you

should ask yourself why would an ufc fighter be unable to pay for his brother's fucking funeral in the first place.
It should be like the NFL, you sign its a wrap you made it in life and you're rich, end of story.

They spent too much money?
 
They'll let Francis box. He'll be a huge underdog and if he wins it will be massive for the UFC. If Francis loses it was expected. They have nothing to lose.
 
They could get a huge slice off every single big boxing cross over fight, yet Dana turns it down right when it's mentioned and clearly says there will be no UFC fighters boxing.
What “big boxing fights” are you talking about? There’s been exactly ONE in UFC history. Are the UFC supposed to hold onto the Askren’s, and Woodley’s after they have literally no use to the current UFC (at large contracts) just because Jake Paul might call out their name?

And how “huge” of a slice is the UFC supposed to get off of a $5M purse to guys like Nate, or Masvidal?

Wtf are you talking about?
 
Dana White: Since I pay you minimum wage , you won't ba able to pay for your brother's funeral, so I'll cover the $20k for that, if it happens while your under contract.

Bobby Green: You're a SAINT! Where do I sign, Saint Dana!?

You must keep them dependent
 
What “big boxing fights” are you talking about? There’s been exactly ONE in UFC history. Are the UFC supposed to hold onto the Askren’s, and Woodley’s after they have literally no use to the current UFC (at large contracts) just because Jake Paul might call out their name?

And how “huge” of a slice is the UFC supposed to get off of a $5M purse to guys like Nate, or Masvidal?

Wtf are you talking about?
That's the point, there was only one boxing cross over fight when many fighters wanted a pay day as well. Dana/UFC has turned them all down and said no UFC fighters will be boxing. People think it's about the money, it isn't. Because UFC could also get a massive cut from all those fights but they have to protect the UFC brand, especially with their champions.
 
so as greedy as the UFC is, you think they're just leaving money on the table to spite their own fighters? doesn't make any sense. the only crossover fight that's even mentioned is Ngannou vs Fury and Ngannou doesn't seem like he's in the sharing mood with the UFC and the UFC doesn't think the money it will draw is worth getting their HW champion smoked.

they want the majority share of hundreds of millions, not the majority share of $20 million and their HW champ gets clowned in front of the world.
It's not to spite their fighters. It's to protect the UFC brand. They don't think they can win vs the boxing champs so it will continue to hurt UFC's brand if they keep losing to boxing. They can get the majority share for any fight, they just don't want the fight because long term brand damage is what will happen if they can't get a win over boxing champions. Boxing will continue to be viewed as superior in terms of striking skill set when compared to UFC.
 
That's the point, there was only one boxing cross over fight when many fighters wanted a pay day as well. Dana/UFC has turned them all down and said no UFC fighters will be boxing. People think it's about the money, it isn't. Because UFC could also get a massive cut from all those fights but they have to protect the UFC brand, especially with their champions.
Again you’re talking about a “massive cut”?? What cut could the UFC ever expect to see out of a $5M purse for one of their fighters?

Meanwhile they have to offer these guys 3 fights a year at their contracted amount. For Askren I saw figures of $500K. So they should let him go get ktfo in boxing, and pay him about $1M for the cpl of fights they’d be on the hook for. To collect a maximum of what percentage of his $2M, if that purse? For you math whizzes out there.. that’s break even, maybe. They literally lower their profile with any active UFC fighter that loses these hand picked fights.

In the case of Conor there were clear and obvious advantages both financially and in terms of exposure. Literally NONE of that exists with any other UFC fighter ever.

How are you going to promote Ngannou as “the baddest man on the planet” when he gets embarrassed if he ever boxes? Connect the dots 101. It amazes me how narrow minded most of you are. You say ridiculous shit. I refute it all with logic. I get called miserable or salty. I guess that’s better than the alternatives, with good reason I could use to call anybody that quotes me.

I’m a big boy, and can debate anybody in here with facts.
 
Again you’re talking about a “massive cut”?? What cut could the UFC ever expect to see out of a $5M purse for one of their fighters?

Meanwhile they have to offer these guys 3 fights a year at their contracted amount. For Askren I saw figures of $500K. So they should let him go get ktfo in boxing, and pay him about $1M for the cpl of fights they’d be on the hook for. To collect a maximum of what percentage of his $2M, if that purse? For you math whizzes out there.. that’s break even, maybe. They literally lower their profile with any active UFC fighter that loses these hand picked fights.

In the case of Conor there were clear and obvious advantages both financially and in terms of exposure. Literally NONE of that exists with any other UFC fighter ever.

How are you going to promote Ngannou as “the baddest man on the planet” when he gets embarrassed if he ever boxes? Connect the dots 101. It amazes me how narrow minded most of you are. You say ridiculous shit. I refute it all with logic. I get called miserable or salty. I guess that’s better than the alternatives, with good reason I could use to call anybody that quotes me.

I’m a big boy, and can debate anybody in here with facts.
You were talking about other mega fights. A canelo fight isn't 5 million purses, none of the boxing fights that were being entertained are not 5 million purses. Those are UFC purse numbers and not boxing. Fury just got a bid for like 30 million and Canelo has 100 million fight deals. That's what I meant about huge cut, they would take 50% just like they did from Conor. But the reason they aren't doing it because it will hurt UFC's brand long term if they keep losing to boxing. So to them it's better to think long term slower gains with UFC instead of short term gains that hurts UFC's future earning potential. That's why they aren't allowing anymore boxing cross over fights. The only thing they may entertain are some mixed rules fight like what Fury and Ngannou spoke on with mma gloves being used. But if the mma fighters loses in that too that will stop all future talks of that as well. So it's best to have a cross over fight card so there is more fighters on the card to increase the chances of winning for mma fighters.
 
You were talking about other mega fights. A canelo fight isn't 5 million purses, none of the boxing fights that were being entertained are not 5 million purses. Those are UFC purse numbers and not boxing. Fury just got a bid for like 30 million and Canelo has 100 million fight deals. That's what I meant about huge cut, they would take 50% just like they did from Conor. But the reason they aren't doing it because it will hurt UFC's brand long term if they keep losing to boxing. So to them it's better to think long term slower gains with UFC instead of short term gains that hurts UFC's future earning potential. That's why they aren't allowing anymore boxing cross over fights. The only thing they may entertain are some mixed rules fight like what Fury and Ngannou spoke on with mma gloves being used. But if the mma fighters loses in that too that will stop all future talks of that as well. So it's best to have a cross over fight card so there is more fighters on the card to increase the chances of winning for mma fighters.
Who the fuck are they fighting in the UFC? Smarten up ffs. Again.. Let Ngannou get ktfo and embarrassed for a one time payment of maybe $10M (I doubt it’s even that much). But you’re left with a guy you can no longer market as “the baddest man on the planet”. You don’t think the UFC makes more than that with one Ngannou defence? You’re so myopic you can’t see the forest for the trees.

MOVING ON.
 
I thought Mendes retired after Volk.

These HW champs mostly fight once a year anyway, if they did boxing or other stuff besides MMA then what.

Francis, like Conor, has the opportunity to fight at the very top of boxing, that's something special that some people like to see win or lose. A bit different than a dude just wanting to "box".

But if it's worth stalling the division for years I dunno, I guess the UFC doesn't want those headaches again.
 
you

should ask yourself why would an ufc fighter be unable to pay for his brother's fucking funeral in the first place.
It should be like the NFL, you sign its a wrap you made it in life and you're rich, end of story.
Thing is, the UFC or any MMA promotion cant work like the NFL with only the absolute best, they would only have 15 (at best) fighters for each division, probably some deserve 20 guys other just 10, WMMA would only have like 10, in total, not shilling for the UFC but just like in boxing, they cant pay the low level guys that well, the difference in boxing is how the UFC operates similar to a league where you could watch prelims because it comes with the UFC brand, while in boxing a lot of them are not even televised, people dont watch PBC on Fox or DAZN for the brand, they watch for the fighters, the top fighters mostly, in the NFL even the bottom teams have fans, they get to play with the #1 teams win or lose, its a different thing, but i sort of agree on something, being in "the UFC" should mean something.
 
Who the fuck are they fighting in the UFC? Smarten up ffs. Again.. Let Ngannou get ktfo and embarrassed for a one time payment of maybe $10M (I doubt it’s even that much). But you’re left with a guy you can no longer market as “the baddest man on the planet”. You don’t think the UFC makes more than that with one Ngannou defence? You’re so myopic you can’t see the forest for the trees.

MOVING ON.
The point wasn't about who they were fighting, the point was the pay lol. You brought up the 5 million number, that's max fight purse number for UFC. That's on the low end for boxing in terms of fight purses. Yes the split is obviously not balanced, that's where all the pay issues with UFC stems from. That's not what was originally being argued here lol. You completely went off topic. The point was UFC isn't willing to have their UFC champions fight boxing world champions because the losses will hurt the UFC brand. Even though those fights would generate more money than any other fight they could make in UFC. There is a reason why the bids get to 30+ million in boxing. Also the reason why they may lose Ngannou to boxing.
 
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