Celeb hypocrisy at the gun control rallies.

[MicroBrew]

Kendal Jenner and Hailey Baldwin showed up for the rally. Other celebs showing up the rallies nationwide were Clooney, his wife Amal, Kim K and Kanye and others I can't recall right now.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...t-joins-March-Lives-rally-Washington-D-C.html

If you look at the picture of Kendal and Hailey, it's obvious they have security with them, at the march. Guns are a great equalizer for smaller guys , elderly, women, disabled etc.. when faced with multiple opponents or physically larger opponents. Celebs don't have to worry too much about such situations because they got beefy security to safeguard them, who may or may not be carrying guns. Even if the security aren't carrying, their stature and numbers are enough to deter 99% of people who may want to start shit.

Guns are a form of self defense for the average Joe, who can not hire security to be with them all the time. So it is hypocritical of these celebs to demand guns be made illegal.

An older thread I made on hypocritical celebs.
http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/h...chumer-clintons-obama.3716163/#post-138793521

 

[spin]

Are those rallies only for people who don't want guns at all?

 

[MicroBrew]

Are those rallies only for people who don't want guns at all?

The mission statement for the rally:

School safety is not a political issue. There cannot be two sides to doing everything in our power to ensure the lives and futures of children who are at risk of dying when they should be learning, playing, and growing. The mission and focus of March For Our Lives is to demand that a comprehensive and effective bill be immediately brought before Congress to address these gun issues. No special interest group, no political agenda is more critical than timely passage of legislation to effectively address the gun violence issues that are rampant in our country.

https://marchforourlives.com/mission-statement/

They don't really tell you what exactly they are want done, regarding the gun violence issues rampant in the US.

 

[oldshadow]

Are those rallies only for people who don't want guns at all?

No they want guns around to protect them and their families but only in the hands of "trained" guards and their security.

The peasants don't deserve to have protect it they can't afford to pay for it.

 

[Fawlty]

The mission statement for the rally:

School safety is not a political issue. There cannot be two sides to doing everything in our power to ensure the lives and futures of children who are at risk of dying when they should be learning, playing, and growing. The mission and focus of March For Our Lives is to demand that a comprehensive and effective bill be immediately brought before Congress to address these gun issues. No special interest group, no political agenda is more critical than timely passage of legislation to effectively address the gun violence issues that are rampant in our country.

https://marchforourlives.com/mission-statement/

They don't really tell you what exactly they are want done, regarding the gun violence issues rampant in the US.

That's obviously not hypocrisy. There are enough real examples of that specific hypocrisy without making stuff up like this.

 

[spin]

The mission statement for the rally:

School safety is not a political issue. There cannot be two sides to doing everything in our power to ensure the lives and futures of children who are at risk of dying when they should be learning, playing, and growing. The mission and focus of March For Our Lives is to demand that a comprehensive and effective bill be immediately brought before Congress to address these gun issues. No special interest group, no political agenda is more critical than timely passage of legislation to effectively address the gun violence issues that are rampant in our country.

https://marchforourlives.com/mission-statement/

They don't really tell you what exactly they are want done, regarding the gun violence issues rampant in the US.

Then I don't see the problem of celebs making an appearance. With security.

 

[spin]

No they want guns around to protect them and their families but only in the hands of "trained" guards and their security.

The peasants don't deserve to have protect it they can't afford to pay for it.

Literally none of that is stated or implied.

That's just you making stuff up

 

[oldshadow]

Literally none of that is stated or implied.

That's just you making stuff up

Most likely an overstatement on some but not all.

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

I always find it distasteful when rich folks with armed security want to infringe on the rights of others to self-defense. Not sure about these specific celebs at these rallies though. Just the concept in general.

 

[HereticBD]

I'm just a silly Canadian. but conflating armed security with the gun control debate, seems kind of dumb.

 

[jlagman]

Without guns, actors would be fake shooting at each other with their fingers and the audience would have to imagine the dramatic effect implied when a character dies on screen.

 

[xcvbn]

I always find it distasteful when rich folks with armed security want to infringe on the rights of others to self-defense. Not sure about these specific celebs at these rallies though. Just the concept in general.

Reminds me of Dianne Feinstein having a CCW permit. This shows the power of political movements and parties because they manipulated her status as a legal gun carrier to being acceptable despite hers and her party's stance being voraciously anti-gun.

 

[IDL]

I always find it distasteful when rich folks with armed security want to infringe on the rights of others to self-defense. Not sure about these specific celebs at these rallies though. Just the concept in general.

It's common sense though, that wealthy people would like the idea of disarming the proles. Why wouldn't they?

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

It's common sense though, that wealthy people would like the idea of disarming the proles. Why wouldn't they?

Everybody angling for privilege.

 

[Teppodama]

Without guns, actors would be fake shooting at each other with their fingers and the audience would have to imagine the dramatic effect implied when a character dies on screen.

I guarantee you that movies and video games have sold more guns than anything the NRA has done.

 

[Teppodama]

I'm just a silly Canadian. but conflating armed security with the gun control debate, seems kind of dumb.

It's about the idea of protection. If you have the money, power and the fame you can be protected by people with guns. If your not, well guess your out of luck or you can't protect yourself as well as they get to. Some people are just more special that way...

 

[MicroBrew]

That's obviously not hypocrisy. There are enough real examples of that specific hypocrisy without making stuff up like this.

Maybe you are right. But I was running on a hunch, that the Celebs involved in this, really just want to see all gun (for all intents and purposes) banned from being wielded by the average Joe. The anti-gun folks may not come right and say they want a ban, but they will support strong legislation that effectively makes owning a gun very difficult.

 

[MicroBrew]

I'm just a silly Canadian. but conflating armed security with the gun control debate, seems kind of dumb.

Why? The point I made in the OP is that security provides them with protection. The average Joe can not afford 24hr security, the next best thing is a gun (if they feel they need it to protect themselves).

 

[HereticBD]

It's about the idea of protection. If you have the money, power and the fame you can be protected by people with guns. If your not, well guess your out of luck or you can't protect yourself as well as they get to. Some people are just more special that way...

I guess. However, I believe it's more about responsible gun ownership by the individual. There's a difference between trained bodyguards hired to protect someone or something, and your average Joe having the same responsibility with three quarters less the training, or not even using it particularly for that purpose.

I see your point though.

 

[MicroBrew]

Then I don't see the problem of celebs making an appearance. With security.

Assuming they want to effectively ban the ownership of guns for the average Joe, through stringent legislation that essentially works like a ban, the celebs can still rely on security for their protection, but the average Joe can't , and he/she can't better their odds of self-defense by owning a gun.