Casein vs. Whey

[GroundC0ntrol]

Has anyone seen a difference between using Casein shakes before bed, along with normal whey isolate shakes during the day ? I have heard that Casein shakes do outstanding things for you while you sleep, but just want some real feedback before I order. BTW what brands do you guys prefer ? I stick with Optimum Nutrition 100% Whey, 10lbs for 55 bucks, mixes and tastes well, even in water.

 

[Zerocrew1984]

wrong forum.


I'm not sure about outstanding things but just that the Casein shakes take a long time to absorb so during sleep its best.

 

[Standard]

Just do a search over in diet and supps, the topic has been covered there about as many times as squats are suggested here

 

[PhxJudoJujitsu]

Casien is a slow release protien, great to take at night before bed. Whey is a fast absrobed protien, best for PWO shakes

 

[#1can]

pure casein tends to be rather expensive, but many blends can be bought for about the same price as whey.

 

[jk3004]

Get micellar casin and mix it with 16 oz. of water. Tasty times.
















Wait, no don't do that.

 

[Monger]

pure casein tends to be rather expensive, but many blends can be bought for about the same price as whey.

I've never seen a blend sell nearly as cheap as whey. Can you give examples?

 

[jk3004]

maybe he is talking about pure micellar caesin? Still not too bad but I am confused as well.

 

[ItalianThreat]

Personally, I don't see the point in ordering casein protein. I don't like paying for supplements other than the essentials (yes I believe whey to be one of the essentials), so I don't buy casein supplements. What I would recommend doing, and is probably cheaper, is simply eating a meal consisting of natty peanut butter, cottage cheese, and milk before bed, all of which contain casein protein.

 

[GroundC0ntrol]

Personally, I don't see the point in ordering casein protein. I don't like paying for supplements other than the essentials (yes I believe whey to be one of the essentials), so I don't buy casein supplements. What I would recommend doing, and is probably cheaper, is simply eating a meal consisting of natty peanut butter, cottage cheese, and milk before bed, all of which contain casein protein.

Yes IT, this is what I have heard as well, so I will just stick to real foods before beds.

On another note, I have just found a excellent deal for some 100% Pure Whey Isolate, top of the line shit, just unflavored ( i heard the flavor is pretty good ), 10lbs for 55 bucks, if you don't know what Whey Isolate is, it's the most processed form of protein for the best retention when compared to concentrate wheys and blends.

And I have found 5lbs of Casein shake by optimum nutrition for 35 bucks, pretty good, still not sure if its worth it though.

 

[booher]

As far as I've heard, the bodybuilders' trick is not a casein supplement, but actual dairy for the casein protein. Specifically, cottage cheese. It's one thing that I might agree on for when it comes to bodybuilders and advice.

 

[#1can]

I've never seen a blend sell nearly as cheap as whey. Can you give examples?

i was about to send you a link to some stuff i bought, only to realize either i am/was imagining things, or the price has drastically increased. I am certain at some point i bought 5lb of a run-of-the-mill micellar casein, whey isolate, sodium caseinate, whey concentrate blend for about 40 bucks canadian.....i just can't prove it.

 

[Monger]

i was about to send you a link to some stuff i bought, only to realize either i am/was imagining things, or the price has drastically increased. I am certain at some point i bought 5lb of a run-of-the-mill micellar casein, whey isolate, sodium caseinate, whey concentrate blend for about 40 bucks canadian.....i just can't prove it.

No biggy. I was just looking for potential new products

 

[#1can]

No biggy. I was just looking for potential new products

http://www.sndcanada.com/gc/gc_item...=Catalog:Protein Powder - 5 lb container&Z9=0

there you go....i had the chocolate, which is now more expensive (not imagining things)....probably because nobody wants orange protein.

 

[GroundC0ntrol]

Ok I have officially found the BEST deal for protein, this is top quality shit for bargain price, I just placed a order for 10lbs Ill update when I get it, heres the link :

http://www.amazon.com/100%-Protein-...8-4649704?ie=UTF8&s=hpc&qid=1185910453&sr=8-2

I know unflavored sounds nasty but I hear this tastes like vanilla/oats, yummy, let me know what you guys think, later.

 

[#1can]

we were talking about casein or blends, but yes that does look like a good deal, and yes drink it down. i am sick and fucking tired of pussies complaining about how their rocky-road muscle milk is lumpy or doesn't taste enough like candy.

 

[GroundC0ntrol]

http://www.sndcanada.com/gc/gc_item...=Catalog:Protein Powder - 5 lb container&Z9=0

there you go....i had the chocolate, which is now more expensive (not imagining things)....probably because nobody wants orange protein.

so this product was a blend right ? not casiene or whey, I heard you can get some 100% whey 100% caseine, mix em up when you need a blend (ie before workout), how did you like the matrix blend ?

 

[#1can]

so this product was a blend right ? not casiene or whey, I heard you can get some 100% whey 100% caseine, mix em up when you need a blend (ie before workout), how did you like the matrix blend ?

yes you can buy 100% casein. i have ON Casein currently, and its great, but quite expensive. bulk websites like trueprotein will sell pure casein also. that blend worked fine. i took it all the time, no special mixes for special times of the day, it mixes reasonably well and tastes reasonably good (i had chocolate, not orange, although as i said earlier i dont really think taste should factor into buying or not buying)

another highly-touted option is biotest metabolic drive. again quite expensive, but often labelled the best (or one of) product on the market.

 

[evilf22]

Personally, I don't see the point in ordering casein protein. I don't like paying for supplements other than the essentials (yes I believe whey to be one of the essentials), so I don't buy casein supplements. What I would recommend doing, and is probably cheaper, is simply eating a meal consisting of natty peanut butter, cottage cheese, and milk before bed, all of which contain casein protein.

its actually cheaper in my experience to buy casein seperately than to eat cottage cheese every night. i would eat a $2 container every night. 12 days in and i could have bought a tub of ON 100% casein from vitamin shoppe. 25 bucks for 29 sercvings of pure casein, without the sugar carbs ( 6 grams/ serving) from the cheese.

 

[#1can]

Personally, I don't see the point in ordering casein protein. I don't like paying for supplements other than the essentials (yes I believe whey to be one of the essentials), so I don't buy casein supplements. What I would recommend doing, and is probably cheaper, is simply eating a meal consisting of natty peanut butter, cottage cheese, and milk before bed, all of which contain casein protein.

if you work it out, cottage cheese is quite expensive per gram protein. it is in no way a cheap alternative.