News Canelo vs Crawford September 13th NETFLIX

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[LangfordBarrow]

Even with Canelo slowing down, this is probably gonna look a lot like Canelo-Charlo or GGG-Brook

I find it perplexing that Canelo was complaining that he won't get any credit for beating Crawford due to their size difference but then he won't negotiate a catch weight or accept a rehydration clause. As much as he's adopted Floyd's style of defense he's copied his matchmaking more.

I don't think the speed difference will be enough to give Crawford much of a chance but hopefully he doesn't try bulking up too much to stay light on his feet and steels himself for a long tactical fight. It might end up being more of a boring fight than people are expecting but he's going to have to pull out a Pep-Saddler 2 boxing masterclass.

I have to agree with Canelo that he won't get much credit for winning, deservedly so, but a Crawford win will catapult his standing among the all-time greats. Even though De La Hoya has some losses on his record he took the opposite approach in selecting his opponents throughout his career. He started off being a big favorite in every fight until he started fighting guys like Whitaker, Quartey, Trinidad and so one. I think most people hold his losses against him more than is deserved but in his prime I'd take Oscar over both Mayweather and Canelo.

 

[LangfordBarrow]

I dont know what's going on with this forum. But the updates absolutely suck & almost make it inoperable from my phone.

Nice! I've been seeing that. Won't get to excited until the big Turk man drops the announcement.

These are the type of legendary fights the sport needs.

The 2 best "small guys" from this generation going at it.

More like "small" and "medium" but it's still one of the best fights out there.

 

[Seano]

I find it perplexing that Canelo was complaining that he won't get any credit for beating Crawford due to their size difference but then he won't negotiate a catch weight or accept a rehydration clause. As much as he's adopted Floyd's style of defense he's copied his matchmaking more.

I don't think the speed difference will be enough to give Crawford much of a chance but hopefully he doesn't try bulking up too much to stay light on his feet and steels himself for a long tactical fight. It might end up being more of a boring fight than people are expecting but he's going to have to pull out a Pep-Saddler 2 boxing masterclass.

I have to agree with Canelo that he won't get much credit for winning, deservedly so, but a Crawford win will catapult his standing among the all-time greats. Even though De La Hoya has some losses on his record he took the opposite approach in selecting his opponents throughout his career. He started off being a big favorite in every fight until he started fighting guys like Whitaker, Quartey, Trinidad and so one. I think most people hold his losses against him more than is deserved but in his prime I'd take Oscar over both Mayweather and Canelo.

Why would he negotiate himself to a disadvantage? No one does that.

 

[WklySportsMemes]

More like "small" and "medium" but it's still one of the best fights out there.

I like to say small with Canelo because he's probably smaller than anyone he has fought over 154. With the exception of Cotto maybe off the top of my head....by a decent amount too.
& that's with the tainted meat allegations too lmao

 

[LangfordBarrow]

The risk-reward isn't in Canelo's favor but the upside is the huge bag of money on the table. He'll get paid very handsomely. It isn't just about how tall someone is or what they weigh. Canelo has been fighting much bigger men for many years. Huge super middleweights & light heavyweights. Bud himself is fighting guys that are bigger but Canelo has actually been dwarfed in there. He's used to it. Bud has never fought above 154 lbs. The weight that this match-up takes place at could be crucial. I don't think Canelo can make 160. It'll probably be at a catchweight but will still count as a SMW championship fight.

Gave you the like but I read it's at 168 and no rehydration clause.

 

[LangfordBarrow]

Canelo moved up weight classes by cutting less weight, dummy, not by adding on an equal amount of weight. Eddie Hearn, who was Canelo’s promoter at the time, said he would be 180 lbs “AT MOST” against Bivol. According to the English language, it means he was either 180 lbs or less than 180 lbs. More is not an option.

Crawford doesn’t need to hurt Canelo to beat Canelo. Floyd never even came close to hurting Canelo and still whooped Canelo’s ass.

Eddie "The Scale" Hearn? I mean that isn't even an unofficial weight. It's just what some guy said.

 

[LangfordBarrow]

Why would he negotiate himself to a disadvantage? No one does that.

What odds would you make for this fight?

 

[StopDucking]

Eddie "The Scale" Hearn? I mean that isn't even an unofficial weight. It's just what some guy said.

“Some guy” being Canelo’s promoter.

Canelo himself said right after the Kovalev fight he could still make 160. There’s no way Canelo weighs more than 180 lbs. Cutting 15 lbs is common, cutting 20 lbs is doable, cutting more than 20 lbs is insane unless you’re a HW.

 

[LangfordBarrow]

“Some guy” being Canelo’s promoter.

Canelo himself said right after the Kovalev fight he could still make 160. There’s no way Canelo weighs more than 180 lbs. Cutting 15 lbs is common, cutting 20 lbs is doable, cutting more than 20 lbs is insane unless you’re a HW.

James Toney cut 28 pounds at SMW when he fought Roy Jones if memory serves. Again, the guy isn't a scale, he can estimate Canelo’s weight but it isn't even an unofficial weigh in. If Canelo can still make 160 then why isn't he coming in any lower than the allowed limit for the weight class?

 

[LangfordBarrow]

Why would he negotiate himself to a disadvantage? No one does that.

Maybe my first response was too brief for you to bother answering so I'll go into a little more detail. I don't think keeping the size difference from being so severe is negotiating himself into a disadvantage. It's more keeping the fight more even and interesting rather than cherrypicking your opponents to the point a win is pretty much meaningless.

Who do you pick to win this fight, what odds would you place, do you give Crawford any more than an outside chance? This fight reminds me of Mayweather against Marquez where the contracted weight was below the limit by a few pounds but Mayweather preferred to not bother cutting weight below the class limit and pay a fine. Juan Manuel was left with little options other than just complain about it or give up a big payday and waste a training camp.

The penalty for Floyd was tiny in comparison to the stipulations he later put in place for larger opponents he fought, so it seems he thought it was a good deal, but in my opinion it's one of most meaningless wins over an ATG in history. If I recall correctly even he stated the win wouldn't count unless he won by knockout.

 

[StopDucking]

James Toney cut 28 pounds at SMW when he fought Roy Jones if memory serves. Again, the guy isn't a scale, he can estimate Canelo’s weight but it isn't even an unofficial weigh in. If Canelo can still make 160 then why isn't he coming in any lower than the allowed limit for the weight class?

Why doesn’t he cut more weight than contractually required? Because he’s not a moron, that’s why. Are you serious right now? Why would anyone cut more weight than he has to and weaken himself for no reason?

 

[LangfordBarrow]

Why doesn’t he cut more weight than contractually required? Because he’s not a moron, that’s why. Are you serious right now? Why would anyone cut more weight than he has to and weaken himself for no reason?

Because fighting a guy that is probably best at 147 pounds is meaningless in regards to historical accomplishment if he comes in at 180 or 190 pounds when they fight. Do you want to lay some cash down against Canelo when they fight even money? I'll go up to a $5,000 bet Canelo wins this fight. We can have a mod administer the funds.

 

[StopDucking]

Because fighting a guy that is probably best at 147 pounds is meaningless in regards to historical accomplishment if he comes in at 180 or 190 pounds when they fight. Do you want to lay some cash down against Canelo when they fight even money? I'll go up to a $5,000 bet Canelo wins this fight. We can have a mod administer the funds.

You’re throwing around numbers like 147 and 190 to hide the fact that Canelo is just a few lbs heavier than Crawford.

Crawford weighs exactly 170 lbs, Canelo weighs in the 170s lbs. Any other numbers are baseless speculations.

 

[LangfordBarrow]

You’re throwing around numbers like 147 and 190 to hide the fact that Canelo is just a few lbs heavier than Crawford.

Crawford weighs exactly 170 lbs, Canelo weighs in the 170s lbs. Any other numbers are baseless speculations.

So Crawford cuts a massive amount of weight yet Canelo barely cuts any? This reminds me of the argument some people used when Floyd and Manny fought. Supposedly Floyd barely cut any weight yet he somehow got an exemption to get an IV because he was too dehydrated making weight. It doesn't seem to add up and if it's the case with Canelo it wouldn't be a problem making the fight below the limit.

 

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[Hagler]

I wish I was hyped for this one.

 

[randomg1t]

I wish I was hyped for this one.

it's not as big as it should be, but i think the fight will probably deliver.

they're both pretty exciting fighters, and crawford isn't coming to collect his paycheck and roll over. he's gonna take it to him.