Rumored Canelo Álvarez vs Carlos Adames PBC PRIME PPV in Japan

[MMALOPEZ]

 

[StopDucking]

So Canelo wants a middleweight next.

It’s not surprising of course, since Canelo is a coward who only takes mismatches.

What’s frustrating is the amount of people who still drink the Kool-Aid about this glorified bum, thinking he would ever fight Beterbiev or Benavidez. It’s obviously never gonna happen.

 

[borntoloseNOT]

So Canelo wants a middleweight next.

It’s not surprising of course, since Canelo is a coward who only takes mismatches.

What’s frustrating is the amount of people who still drink the Kool-Aid about this glorified bum, thinking he would ever fight Beterbiev or Benavidez. It’s obviously never gonna happen.

He already fought Bivol who some fans think stood toe to toe with and BEAT Beterbiev and and most think same Bivol would destroy Benavidez. The fact that you just called a guaranteed HoFer a coward when he already manned up and fought the equivalent of who you say he won’t. And considering he was clearly outgunned he still gave a fair account of himself. I’m annoyed he won’t fight Benavidez either, but that’s in part because Morrell is gonna ruin that narrative in early 2025, oh well

 

[Ballsaque]

Fuck kinda bullshit is that

 

[borntoloseNOT]

What weight class are they rumored to be fighting at?

 

[Mujeriego]

What weight class are they rumored to be fighting at?

I would assume 168.

 

[Monte Moku]

Looks like Canelo is doing a retirement tour and just looking to cash some paychecks before retiring. Fighting upwards in weight could get him some really meaningful wins for building his legacy further, but those matchups don't look like they favor him very well (i.e., rematching Bivol or fighting Beterbiev). Going down in weight or fighting a smaller guy isn't going to contribute much towards his legacy, and likely wouldn't age well if he beat someone too small (i.e., Crawford). Benavidez would be an interesting fight, but I think the risk/reward leans out of his favor there too imo. So what do you do? Take winnable fights, cash some checks, and ride off in the sunset. At least that's the way I see it. I mostly watch Kickboxing and Muay Thai, so I could be missing something

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

Expected something like this

 

[StopDucking]

He already fought Bivol who some fans think stood toe to toe with and BEAT Beterbiev and and most think same Bivol would destroy Benavidez. The fact that you just called a guaranteed HoFer a coward when he already manned up and fought the equivalent of who you say he won’t. And considering he was clearly outgunned he still gave a fair account of himself. I’m annoyed he won’t fight Benavidez either, but that’s in part because Morrell is gonna ruin that narrative in early 2025, oh well

He thought Bivol was a cherry pick, got embarrassed and decided never to take a potentially hard fight ever again. Nothing glorious about that.

Let’s not flip the script and pretend Canelo fought Bivol because he wanted the toughest opponents out there. He made a mistake one time.

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

He already fought Bivol who some fans think stood toe to toe with and BEAT Beterbiev and and most think same Bivol would destroy Benavidez. The fact that you just called a guaranteed HoFer a coward when he already manned up and fought the equivalent of who you say he won’t. And considering he was clearly outgunned he still gave a fair account of himself. I’m annoyed he won’t fight Benavidez either, but that’s in part because Morrell is gonna ruin that narrative in early 2025, oh well

Canelo did fight Bivol but context matters. At the time Bivol hadn't beaten anyone that notable. It wasn't until he beat Canelo that he became a P4Per. He was still a world class boxer that was very good defensively but nobody knew if it would translate against a genuinely elite level fighter. Bivol surprised him. Canelo's response was to avoid the rematch rather than looking to even the score.

 

[Doctor Grudge]

Canelo did fight Bivol but context matters. At the time Bivol hadn't beaten anyone that notable. It wasn't until he beat Canelo that he became a P4Per. He was still a world class boxer that was very good defensively but nobody knew if it would translate against a genuinely elite level fighter. Bivol surprised him. Canelo's response was to avoid the rematch rather than looking to even the score.

Well, Bivol beat him so of course it surprised him, no elite fighter is fighting someone they think they can't beat or benefit financially from.

The average fan would thought Bivol was an easy one because in boxing fandom, if you're not #1 you just suck. But people in the industry definitely knew Bivol was good, and I really doubt Canelo's team were scouting Bivol and thought he would be a jabroni.

Bivol was always good, just not as highly rated as Beterbiev which is why Canelo picked him.

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

Well, Bivol beat him so of course it surprised him, no elite fighter is fighting someone they think they can't beat or benefit financially from.

The average fan would thought Bivol was an easy one because in boxing fandom, if you're not #1 you just suck. But people in the industry definitely knew Bivol was good, and I really doubt Canelo's team were scouting Bivol and thought he would be a jabroni.

Bivol was always good, just not as highly rated as Beterbiev which is why Canelo picked him.

Not just beat him but beat him handily hence the surprise. Bivol has been a decision machine for years so it was a much safer fight than Beterbiev. They probably also figured if it was a close fight that went the distance then it'd go to Canelo.

Sure, Bivol was a good fighter then. However, his best win up to that point was probably Joe Smith. There were still questions about how he'd do against a genuine elite level fighter which Joe clearly isn't. This was reflected in the odds. Canelo was a heavy favorite to beat Bivol despite being smaller. They knew Canelo would be a big favorite with the bookies before the fight was ever made. It wasn't viewed by the public as a pick'em or a dare to be great type of fight for Canelo. The latter would've been Beterbiev.

 

[Blastbeat]

so how is Carlos Adames more deserving than William Scull? at least Scull is in Canelo's weight class and is also a champion. maybe Canelo should at least fight Mbilli or Pacheco.

dumb fight

 

[Seano]

Kind of skeptical on this one. Canelo fights in May and September these days. I guess I could see it being a tuneup if there was a big opponent out there for May.