Can we get a Clay Guida appreciation thread?

[GoshiShun17]

Can we get some appreciation for a great journeyman? Right up there with Lytle, Cerrone, etc...

35-19 with 20 finishes, finished 12 times, always giving the crowd a great time and a real fight. 16 years of competing so far.

Notable Wins:

• Nate Diaz
• BJ Penn (2019)
• Lauzon
• Pettis
• Gomi
• RDA
• Thomson

Notable losses (murderers row):
• Benson Henderson
• Diego Sanchez
• Din Thomas
• Tyson Griffin
• KenFlo
• Huerta
• Oliveira
• Gray Maynard
• Chad Mendes
• Gilbert Melendez
• Jim Miller
• Ortega

This dude is 38 and his list of dudes he's fought makes him look at least 48. He's stepped in the cage with nearly 20 absolute killers.

WAR THE FIRST EVER STRIKEFORCE LIGHTWEIGHT CHAMPION CLAY "THE CARPENTER" GUIDA!!!!!!!!!! WAR TARZAN!!!!!!!!

Fuck C'Lay n Pray Guida!!! What's there to appreciate besides when he gets stopped.

 

[GoshiShun17]

Good fighter and respect to him but Clay Guida was only exciting when he was getting his ass kicked

I won't even say anything that nice about him

 

[NicholasJBasile]

Can we get some appreciation for a great journeyman? Right up there with Lytle, Cerrone, etc...

35-19 with 20 finishes, finished 12 times, always giving the crowd a great time and a real fight. 16 years of competing so far.

Notable Wins:

• Nate Diaz
• BJ Penn (2019)
• Lauzon
• Pettis
• Gomi
• RDA
• Thomson

Notable losses (murderers row):
• Benson Henderson
• Diego Sanchez
• Din Thomas
• Tyson Griffin
• KenFlo
• Huerta
• Oliveira
• Gray Maynard
• Chad Mendes
• Gilbert Melendez
• Jim Miller
• Ortega

This dude is 38 and his list of dudes he's fought makes him look at least 48. He's stepped in the cage with nearly 20 absolute killers.

WAR THE FIRST EVER STRIKEFORCE LIGHTWEIGHT CHAMPION CLAY "THE CARPENTER" GUIDA!!!!!!!!!! WAR TARZAN!!!!!!!!

Guida is impossible for me not to love -- he's a former wrestler who works his ass off and is able to just will his way past opponents. He's like the ultimate blue collar fighter with an appropriate nickname.

 

[WhuffieCollector]

I have to be honest, I can't stand his fights and wish he wasn't in the UFC.

 

[TheSpider]

Well, he has 6 fight on the night bonuses. That is more than Silva.

How many KO of the nights does he have? Not even close to Silva

 

[machidafan99]

he needs to rematch the punk

 

[Poatan Power]

Fuck C'Lay n Pray Guida!!! What's there to appreciate besides when he gets stopped.

In his first 22 fights (pre-SF/UFC), he was 18-4 and finished 14 of them. Once he got to the big leagues and the competition got stiffer he went 17-15 and only finished 6 of his wins. Also, in those 32 fight in the SF/UFC era he was finished 9 times.

The ultimate blue collar, every day journeyman that this sport needs.

 

[Poatan Power]

Guess what the free fight today is today?

Sanchez vs Guida

 

[pankrat]

Can we get some appreciation for a great journeyman? Right up there with Lytle, Cerrone, etc...

35-19 with 20 finishes, finished 12 times, always giving the crowd a great time and a real fight. 16 years of competing so far.

Notable Wins:

• Nate Diaz
• BJ Penn (2019)
• Lauzon
• Pettis
• Gomi
• RDA
• Thomson

Notable losses (murderers row):
• Benson Henderson
• Diego Sanchez
• Din Thomas
• Tyson Griffin
• KenFlo
• Huerta
• Oliveira
• Gray Maynard
• Chad Mendes
• Gilbert Melendez
• Jim Miller
• Ortega

This dude is 38 and his list of dudes he's fought makes him look at least 48. He's stepped in the cage with nearly 20 absolute killers.

WAR THE FIRST EVER STRIKEFORCE LIGHTWEIGHT CHAMPION CLAY "THE CARPENTER" GUIDA!!!!!!!!!! WAR TARZAN!!!!!!!!

You make an appreciation thread and you label him as a journeyman?

 

[mirko>anyone]

Heart personified. Guy is in the “just scrap” HoF.

 

[pankrat]

In his first 22 fights (pre-SF/UFC), he was 18-4 and finished 14 of them. Once he got to the big leagues and the competition got stiffer he went 17-15 and only finished 6 of his wins. Also, in those 32 fight in the SF/UFC era he was finished 9 times.

The ultimate blue collar, every day journeyman that this sport needs.

He was losing to champions or tittle contenders only. Usually in competitive fights. And beat some of them as well. Journeymen get beat before even reaching that stage so often.
I guess you can call him a gatekeeper but certainly not just a journeyman

 

[RemyR]

Clay fought an old teammate of mine (Vito Woods) back in the day. I remember thinking “holy fuck this dude has energy”. Really cool guy post fight too. Drank a shit ton at the after party lol.

 

[Poatan Power]

You make an appreciation thread and you label him as a journeyman?

...GOAT candidate?

He was losing to champions or tittle contenders only. Usually in competitive fights. And beat some of them as well. Journeymen get beat before even reaching that stage so often.
I guess you can call him a gatekeeper but certainly not just a journeyman

Maybe. I'd have to study and see how many people beat him en route to a title fight.

Gatekeeper > journeyman or journeyman > gatekeeper considering his history?

I feel like with like 28 UFC fights (forget the record) journeyman isn't necessarily wrong.

I love the dude. Always down to scrap. A true fighter. And seemingly always fighting the top level talent.

 

[Elcucringy]

Clay seems like a genuinely good dude. He'd be a cool guy to get a beer and talk fights with.
#WarTheCarpenter

 

[KillerIsBack V2]

I loved it when he beat Nate. That would be my favourite Guida moment. One of my all time favourite fighters.

The fact he holds 3 wins in a row against RDA, Gomi, and prime Pettis is hilarious though.
Fun fact he beat Josh Thompson as well who TKO'd Nate's face off.

The definition of an average fighter

You see, I agree with you based off the fact his record is very confusing. his fighting style is stupid. but the man is gold for some reason.

 

[pankrat]

...GOAT candidate?



Maybe. I'd have to study and see how many people beat him en route to a title fight.

Gatekeeper > journeyman or journeyman > gatekeeper considering his history?

I feel like with like 28 UFC fights (forget the record) journeyman isn't necessarily wrong.

I love the dude. Always down to scrap. A true fighter. And seemingly always fighting the top level talent.

Man, if you fight 28 times in UFC always fighting the top talent, as you say, by definition that's far from a journeyman.

The top talents are not so by beating journeymen

 

[Poatan Power]

Man, if you fight 28 times in UFC always fighting the top talent, as you say, by definition that's far from a journeyman.

The top talents are not so by beating journeymen

Well, I listed his notable wins/losses in the OP. Since he went 6-12 against top MMA talent that's what I went with.

I'm open for input

 

[pankrat]

Well, I listed his notable wins/losses in the OP. Since he went 6-12 against top MMA talent that's what I went with.

I'm open for input

Thats basically a statement to his consistency and longevity

Those guys he lost to were champions, or at least tittle contenders. A win over Guida often gave you, at least, the opportunity to fight for the #1 contender status. Definition of a gatekeeper, I guess?

Its not like you are a champion/tittle contender otherwise you are a journeyman lol. Its not like that in any sport.

A guy who holds wins over Dos Anjos, Pettis, Diaz, Thomson...Hioki, Gomi, Kawajiri...among other top LWs...is far from a journeyman, period.

 

[FireKidWS]

Champion
Contender
Journeyman
Average


Is this how many of you think about journeyman?

 

[BEATDOWNS]

Can we get some appreciation for a great journeyman? Right up there with Lytle, Cerrone, etc...

35-19 with 20 finishes, finished 12 times, always giving the crowd a great time and a real fight. 16 years of competing so far.

Notable Wins:

• Nate Diaz
• BJ Penn (2019)
• Lauzon
• Pettis
• Gomi
• RDA
• Thomson

Notable losses (murderers row):
• Benson Henderson
• Diego Sanchez
• Din Thomas
• Tyson Griffin
• KenFlo
• Huerta
• Oliveira
• Gray Maynard
• Chad Mendes
• Gilbert Melendez
• Jim Miller
• Ortega

This dude is 38 and his list of dudes he's fought makes him look at least 48. He's stepped in the cage with nearly 20 absolute killers.

WAR THE FIRST EVER STRIKEFORCE LIGHTWEIGHT CHAMPION CLAY "THE CARPENTER" GUIDA!!!!!!!!!! WAR TARZAN!!!!!!!!