Can we finally admit

[IowaIceMan]

Can we all finally just admit that most Brazilian fighters were juiced to the moon, before USADA took over?

 

[hypocalking]

No RDA was tested under USADA while beating Cowboy, Pettis

 

[discrawg]

No, completely irrelevant in regards to RDA.

 

[touchedbyjab]

 

[Mammothman]

I don't know man RDA looked very slow and not physical impressive as before, just what I think I saw and I was rooting for him

 

[Scheme]

What part of RDA's performance did USADA affect?

 

[gabrielspecter]

 

[Simian Raticus]

RDA had his best wins after USADA, but yeah I think that a large number of Brazilians have fallen off under the new regime (and some Americans too).

 

[Dorkman]

It's not like he won, and defended the belt already under USADA's watch. If anything i'd look more to that foot that he couldn't use for a long time from the break. But i'm not here to try and make an excuse for him. Alvarez went in there and took it from him. Much respect Eddie, RDA is a tough champ to go through to get a belt.

 

[IowaIceMan]

Agreed Isor, by no means implying that it was only Brazil that had juicers. They just seem to have had a much higher proportion due to extremely corrupt and lax testing.

 

[iwhoopedbatman]

He got rocked. I'm not going to say I'd be shocked if RDA (like any fighter) were using, but this didn't prove anything. You know, except that in MMA, anything can happen. Which we already knew.

 

[ShreddinMMA]

This is such a dumb fucking argument.

Werdum and RDA were both champs in the USADA era.

There are still plenty of Brazilian fighters near the top of the divisions as well.

This is a broken and idiotic argument, anyone who subscribes to it are just showing a lack of intelligence.

 

[LiLoMMA]

Fuck "the juice". Go out there and do it imo

 

[JayPettryMMA]

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Good answer.

 

[Sleepdancer]

Probably, but I think it's more likely that some of them got old or outclassed by hungry up and comers.

 

[Metal_Daze]

Could be a whole bunch of coincidences...

 

[ShreddinMMA]

I mean fuck. Someone has to be really stupid to buy into this (when Brendan Schaub is pushing this angle, you know it's a poorly formed opinion).

1. There have been multiple Brazilian champions since USADA came in.

2. Many of them train in the US now.

3. There are top contenders in every single division that are Brazilian. There are 3 challenging for a belt in the next 2 days.

4. It's not like all Brazilian fighters all suddenly had a drop off. Many are still doing well.

5. Just as many fighters from different nations (including the US) are getting busted by USADA.



Hence, this is a broken, baseless opinion. There is next to no evidence to support it and there are a huge number of factors as to why Brazilians are less successful than they were in the early days (notably, there are more Brazilians training Americans in BJJ and the likes than ever before).

I just don't get why people try to bash an entire nation of ahtletes for literally nothing.

It's just shows how shitty people many people are.