Can prime Brock Lesnar beat any HW to ever exist in MMA?

[Takes Two To Tango]

Was Brock in his prime when he fought Cain?

If not how would prime Lesnar do against Cain?

Or how about HW Jon Jones?

Or the greatest Fedor?

There this mythical aura about Lesnar on here.

I honestly think he'd lose to Cain 9 out of 10 times.

Fedor would be a close fight, just because of Lesnar size. But if Fedor tags Brock quickly it will be lights out.

As for Ngannou. I think Ngannou beats the shit out of him. Ngannou take down defence is a lot better.

Stipe would be a very close fight.

As for Big Nog he'd find a way to submit Brock.

Jon Jones would probably annihilate Brock.

And Tom Aspinall would beat Brock also.

Oh yeah Ubereem will always be a hard fight for Brock.

That's just my two cents, take it or leave it. lol

 

[Mob69]

Brock lacked the skill set, IQ, and resilience necessary to beat the likes of Fedor and Big Nog. That's just for starters. Cormier would neutralise Lesnar's strengths and finish him. Werdum would be a bad match up for him too.

 

[Shaolin Alan]

Prime Bob Sapp powerbombs Lesnar and sends him back to pro-wrastlin'!!

 

[Doctor Grudge]

I would say no. His ground game is good but not great, and his striking is pretty bad. He was able to overwhelm Herring (past his prime I think) and Mir with his size and strength, but it's not enough to consistently work on everyone in UFC history.


I dont think Brock can realsitically beat someone like OVereem, even taking into account Overeem gets upset a lot. I dont see how he beats Cain or JDS. Don't think he can take down prime Ngannou and finish him before Ngannou puts together some combos that really get Lesnar backing up.

I would have loved for Nog to fight Brock back then - at least right before he started declining. I think in a 5 rounder Nogueira submits him, but 3 rounder might gets decisioned. Werdum flat out outgrapples Lesnar.

Barnett? DC? Jones? I think their combination of wresting and grappling is too much - they all can out strike Lesnar easily despite it not being their specialties.



Fedor could end up like the fight with Bigfoot Silva, but if I can recall the problem was Fedor couldn't really hurt Silva. I'm not sure if Lesnar can take that type of punishment even with his size. Fedor still has enough fire power to put down Tim Sylvia. I think Fedor beats him, but I guess Lesnar "could" beat him. He could def takedown Fedor.

Randy in his prime I think would be a hard fight for Brock too, he wouldn't get knocked out like that if he were younger. Lesnar "could" beat him, but I'm just highlighting Lesnar was far from unbeatable. Even smaller guys would be 50/50 or 60/40 threats to him.

 

[ThaiSexPills]

There’s a reason Jones avoided any big heavyweights with grappling. I think Brock would have bulldozed him. Being a LHW with no KO power is a horrible strategy at HW, even if you are the highest IQ fighter ever.

 

[Doctor Grudge]

There’s a reason Jones avoided any big heavyweights with grappling. I think Brock would have bulldozed him. Being a LHW with no KO power is a horrible strategy at HW, even if you are the highest IQ fighter ever.

Jones stopped nearly every opponent he had when he was in his prime. Might not have one punch KO power but he can break down guys pretty easily, including DC who would easily beat Brock Lesnar.

Jon Jones didn't avoid any HW with grappling, he just avoided fighting at HW in general. Ngannou was the champion and not a grappler and Jones didn't fight him either.

Jones never struggled against grapplers. He struggles against guys with good boxing.

 

[RemyR]

No

 

[ThaiSexPills]

Jones stopped nearly every opponent he had when he was in his prime. Might not have one punch KO power but he can break down guys pretty easily, including DC who would easily beat Brock Lesnar.

Jon Jones didn't avoid any HW with grappling, he just avoided fighting at HW in general. Ngannou was the champion and not a grappler and Jones didn't fight him either.

Jones never struggled against grapplers. He struggles against guys with good boxing.

Jones never broke down the bigger man. He excelled when he was able to bully guys. I don’t think his game would translate against a big guy who can grapple like brock or Curtis Blaydes. Jon is a better grappler than a striker but him in top shape in his prime is a good 60-65 pounds less than Brock who is a high level wrestler.

Jon avoided bigger guys for a reason. The Reyes and Santos fights along with the first Gustafsson fights all made him look human. That’s why he was scared of rampage in the lead up and why he retired to avoid Tom. He’s still one of the best to ever do it but I don’t think his game would translate well to HW. He has much more of a chance against prime Brock than he would say prime JDS pre Cain though.

 

[philcrow]

No. For such a giant dude, he did not react well when getting hit.

 

[Leinster Rugby]

Good god no. He can't take a punch.

 

[DayV]

 

[WOLVERINEKILLS]

I would say no. His ground game is good but not great, and his striking is pretty bad. He was able to overwhelm Herring (past his prime I think) and Mir with his size and strength, but it's not enough to consistently work on everyone in UFC history.


I dont think Brock can realsitically beat someone like OVereem, even taking into account Overeem gets upset a lot. I dont see how he beats Cain or JDS. Don't think he can take down prime Ngannou and finish him before Ngannou puts together some combos that really get Lesnar backing up.

I would have loved for Nog to fight Brock back then - at least right before he started declining. I think in a 5 rounder Nogueira submits him, but 3 rounder might gets decisioned. Werdum flat out outgrapples Lesnar.

Barnett? DC? Jones? I think their combination of wresting and grappling is too much - they all can out strike Lesnar easily despite it not being their specialties.



Fedor could end up like the fight with Bigfoot Silva, but if I can recall the problem was Fedor couldn't really hurt Silva. I'm not sure if Lesnar can take that type of punishment even with his size. Fedor still has enough fire power to put down Tim Sylvia. I think Fedor beats him, but I guess Lesnar "could" beat him. He could def takedown Fedor.

Randy in his prime I think would be a hard fight for Brock too, he wouldn't get knocked out like that if he were younger. Lesnar "could" beat him, but I'm just highlighting Lesnar was far from unbeatable. Even smaller guys would be 50/50 or 60/40 threats to him.

If you use Randy in his prime, make certain to compare Fedor in his prime which ended at the Arlovski fight.

 

[TeenageMutantLesnarTurtle]

He was obviously a great athlete for his size, but people really do tend to be overly generous in their estimations of him. Even in more recent times i'd say Ngannou, Tom, Jon, Pav, Blaydes, Jailton all would have had a good to great chance at beating him. Then you look at the all time situation with guys like JDS, Werdum, Stipe, Bigfoot, Barnett, Fedor, DC etc etc, many of them around at the same time Brock was.

 

[godhatesacoward]

Was Brock in his prime when he fought Cain?

If not how would prime Lesnar do against Cain?

Or how about HW Jon Jones?

Or the greatest Fedor?

There this mythical aura about Lesnar on here.

I honestly think he'd lose to Cain 9 out of 10 times.

Fedor would be a close fight, just because of Lesnar size. But if Fedor tags Brock quickly it will be lights out.

As for Ngannou. I think Ngannou beats the shit out of him. Ngannou take down defence is a lot better.

Stipe would be a very close fight.

As for Big Nog he'd find a way to submit Brock.

Jon Jones would probably annihilate Brock.

And Tom Aspinall would beat Brock also.

Oh yeah Ubereem will always be a hard fight for Brock.

That's just my two cents, take it or leave it. lol

my most delusional belief is I could train myself to the point where I could beat Lesnar as a HW champion and im a welterweight when I cut a bit of water weight guy could not mentally handle being punched in the face

 

[Deaths Head]

He would have went undefeated for a minute had he stayed healthy enough not including the first Mir fight but the referee saved him in that one .

He’d have been to big strong and smart , if Fedor was confident he’d absolutely win then he’d have fought him but we saw why he didn’t after losing to Dan Henderson in a cage where Fedors record goes south bc a cage favors stronger aggressive fighters by design who are able to crowd or get on top of an opponent and still do damage unlike a roped ring where the action can break .

 

[LEWIS540]

If you use Randy in his prime, make certain to compare Fedor in his prime which ended at the Arlovski fight.

Ah, the old my favourite fighters prime ended when he started to lose.

Started after CroCop imo

 

[WOLVERINEKILLS]

Ah, the old my favourite fighters prime ended when he started to lose.

Started after CroCop imo

Before he lost to Werdum hus coach was saying he noticed he slowed down. You could see it in the Rogers fight.

Ah, the old favorite I didn’t research this before I posted comment.

 

[LEWIS540]

Before he lost to Werdum hus coach was saying he noticed he slowed down. You could see it in the Rogers fight.

Ah, the old favorite I didn’t research this before I posted comment.

Literally said it started before.

He didn't look hid best vs Hunt.

 

[Jonjonesgonemad]

Was Brock in his prime when he fought Cain?

If not how would prime Lesnar do against Cain?

Or how about HW Jon Jones?

Or the greatest Fedor?

There this mythical aura about Lesnar on here.

I honestly think he'd lose to Cain 9 out of 10 times.

Fedor would be a close fight, just because of Lesnar size. But if Fedor tags Brock quickly it will be lights out.

As for Ngannou. I think Ngannou beats the shit out of him. Ngannou take down defence is a lot better.

Stipe would be a very close fight.

As for Big Nog he'd find a way to submit Brock.

Jon Jones would probably annihilate Brock.

And Tom Aspinall would beat Brock also.

Oh yeah Ubereem will always be a hard fight for Brock.

That's just my two cents, take it or leave it. lol

Lesnar beats a lot of HW's, bro, HW division is weak, even you fans kept saying it for years

Or to be serious, let's do the math here:

Brock Lesnar beat Heath Herring who beat Cheick Kongo the fight before that

He beat Randy Couture who beat Gabriel Gonzaga and Tim Sylvia the fights before that

He beat Frank Mir who beat Big Nog the fight before that (and did it again later) and beat Kongo after the Lesnar fight, and also he beat Cro Cop too (whom also got beaten by Gonzaga too)

He beat the finishing machine Shane Carwin who finished Gonzaga and Mir

He beat Mark Hunt who beat Roy Nelson, Bigfoot Silva and Mir the fights before Lesnar fight, and would go to beat Derrick Lewis

He only lost to Mir first fight in which he avenged it later, lost to best version of Cain whom was undefeated and Ubereem who played dirty and was kicking him in his diverticulitis

So that means if Lesnar in his prime since it's unknown if he really had one or not cause his career was so short lived, I'll mention HW's he can beat, he losses to always, and HW's that he can beat if they're not in thei primes

HW's he'd beat from any generation (even in their primes too): Derrick Lewis, Roy Nelson, Cheick Kongo, Ben Rothwell, Tim Sylvia, Andrei Arlovksi, Randy Couture, Frank Mir, Heath Herring, Shane Carwin, Travis Browne, Brendan Schaub, Matt Mitrione, Pat Barry, Josh Barnett, Mark Coleman, Rozenstruik, Tuivasa, Stefan Struve, Ricco Rodrigez, Greg Hardy, Augusto Sakai, Chris Daukaus, Jeff Monson, Kevin Randleman, Bas Rutten, Pedro Rizzo, Gan McGee, Justin Eilers, Mike Whitehead, Paul Buentello, Alexander Romanov, Juan Espino, Marcos Rogerio De Lima, Rodrigo Nascimento

HW's that he can only beat when they aren't in their primes but losses to them in their primes: Francis Ngannou, Big Nog, Cro Cop, Sergei Pavlovich, Ciryl Gane

HW's he'd have competitive fights with prime for prime: DC, Stipe, JDS, Blaydes, Werdum, Jones, Volkov, Prime Alexey Oleynik, Sergey Spivak, Sergei Kharitanov, prime Bigfoot Silva, Jailton Almeida, Marcin Tybura, Waldo Cortes Acosta, Rizvan Kuniev, Tallison Teixeira, Valter Walker, Mick Parkin, Shamil Gaziev, Prime Shamil Abdulrakhimov, Ryan Bader, Renan Ferreira, Oleg Popov, Valentin Moldavsky, Vitaly Minakov, Ante Delija

HW's that will always beat him: Cain, Alistair, Aspinall, Fedor

And that's all there is to say, hope that helps

 

[GordoBarraBJJ]

Prime Bork couldn't beat oft injured Cain.

So no.