it was like what I made up filming this which I posted a few days ago
Ur talking big strong guys, thick arms, and Sefo not that experienced on the ground
The head was not twisted sideways which is better
It is a fulcrum and a fold, what more do you need to understand?
If they were smaller guys you could papercutter choke on throat, or head sideways for different neck crank but fulcrum on neck vs chest