Can anyone defend the idea of NOT investigating Trump's admin?

[bobgeese]

And "Trump dindu nuffin " and " but Hillary" are the rights favorite catchphrases of the year so far

Seriously, are you even paying attention. Our favorite is by far,




Bill Clinton is a rapist.

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

This needs repostin'

 

[regmma123]

Seriously, are you even paying attention. Our favorite is by far,




Bill Clinton is a rapist.

at least the left can say the overwhelming majority of their sex scandals are heterosexual though..

 

[bobgeese]

at least the left can say the overwhelming majority of their sex scandals are heterosexual though..

You win this round...

Well done.

 

[konagold]

What? What "guys"? Who are you talking about? That is literally how politics works and always has worked. We do the same thing. There is video of Obama talking about how he will deal with Russia, with the President of Russia prior to the 2012 election, in the midst of that campaign, is that collusion?



OK, we've clearly reached an impasse. A warrant was sought and denied. It was then sought again. The government has never admitted to survelling anything. That's one of the huge sticking points. And again FISA warrants are about ESPIONAGE. So your position is that there is probable cause that Trump is either a Russian spy or a Terrorist. Please present it.

The highlight part seems to suggest you haven't been reading my posts, or that you're simply too naive or ideolgically blind to understand the point. It is common place. Again, for the 5th time do you think incoming administrations have no contact with foreign diplomats prior to thier first day in office? It's a common place interaction. Yet a FISA warrant was sought against a political opponent for what is and always has been routine political interaction. You seem to be just fine with giving politicians the authority to paint thier political opponents as either spys or terrorists. Why? Oh, and where is the investigation into this?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...et-russian-ambassador-says-kremlin-spokesman/

Where have I stated that I know details about the investigation? I know objectively what FISA warrants are for, do you? Because I get the feeling you don't really understand what a FISA warrant's purpose is. P.S., the irony of the guy constantly claiming there is evidence and probable cause of collusion when none has been presented talking sarcastically attempting to call someone else out on not possibly being able to know any is beautiful.

1.) Do you think incoming administrations just pick up on day one and try to figure out how to run the government the day they get there? I'll take an actual answer to that any time you'd like to give me one.

2.) What does Turkey have to do with Russia?

3.) Flynn was fired by Trump.

4.) Whic Congressman was that?

5.) Tie all of that together to give me probable cause that Trump or any of his people are spies or terrorists. If you can't that makes the FISA warrants unjustified. I'll take real answers, not obfuscation.



Dude, you can't really be that naive. Accusing him out of the blue is exactly what they did. He was asked if he talked to the Russians on behalf of the Trump campaign. He said no. He spoke to the ambassador to the US about something unrelated to the campaign and said so. You even provided the direct quote. The problem with your argument is that you are unaffected by facts and just wish to be right.

In 2012 - WHILE HE WAS PRESIDENT! You don't stop being president in the middle of a campaign. Was that politically embarrassing? Yes! But if a reporter asked him the next day whether he met with Russians recently, my guess is that Obama wouldn't have lied about it. Your boys on the other hand lied through their teeth. Repeatedly.

1. Of course not. But if you lie about those contacts, then it obviously seems like you have other motivations. And the one thing your camp has done repeatedly is lie.
2. Are you serious?? BECAUSE IT SHOWS A PATTERN.
3. Flynn was fired by Trump ONLY after the truth was leaked. He allowed a man who was financially beholden to another country to be NSA - with access to the most closely guarded secrets of the US.
4. Elijah Cummings. You can see the letter right here. https://democrats-oversight.house.g...v/files/documents/2016-11-18.EEC to Pence.pdf
5. You are delusional.

You're clearly either too obtuse to understand or don't want to admit that you're supporting a man who by any objective analysis is clearly beholden to his Russian masters. Good news is that Jared boy is now in the crosshairs and considering he's never seen a hard day in his life, my guess is that he'll sing his heart out in order to stay out of federal prison (a place his corrupt father (like father like son?) is well acquainted with).

 

[lfd0311]

In 2012 - WHILE HE WAS PRESIDENT! You don't stop being president in the middle of a campaign. Was that politically embarrassing? Yes! But if a reporter asked him the next day whether he met with Russians recently, my guess is that Obama wouldn't have lied about it. Your boys on the other hand lied through their teeth. Repeatedly

He's talking about what is going to happen once he's re-elected. What was the response he got? "I'll pass that along Vladimir". That's Putin, just FYI. Why might he be doing all of this? For the same reason that the Russian Ambassador, the same person that you are claiming meeting with is "collusion", has been invited to both party's national conventions since the height of the Cold War. Again, why might that be? There is some very shallow thinking going on on your part. Just admit that it doesn't matter to you what or even if there is any evidence of wrong doing by Trump, you just don't like him so will go with whatever you're told. Again, I'd like real answers to these questions.

1. Of course not. But if you lie about those contacts, then it obviously seems like you have other motivations. And the one thing your camp has done repeatedly is lie.
2. Are you serious?? BECAUSE IT SHOWS A PATTERN.
3. Flynn was fired by Trump ONLY after the truth was leaked. He allowed a man who was financially beholden to another country to be NSA - with access to the most closely guarded secrets of the US.
4. Elijah Cummings. You can see the letter right here. https://democrats-oversight.house.gov/sites/democrats.oversight.house.gov/files/documents/2016-11-18.EEC to Pence.pdf
5. You are delusional.

1.) Nobody has lied. Which "camp" am I a part of?

2.) LOL, Turkey and Russia are the same thing now. Got it. That is some sort of a pattern in your mind? That's weak, you should be able to do better. "prove collusion with Russia. Bu... but Turkey..."

3.) He was fired by Trump 24 days after he took office.

4.) Look at the date on that letter. That's 9 days after the election. You don't think maybe that the timing of it might have made the Trump people a little leary? That they might have taken it as an immediate attempt to cause disruption to his not even established Cabinent and sabatoge his Presidency before it began? Just maybe? Don't you think if this was really a concern of theirs they'd have mentioned it prior to the election? But they didn't do that. Why do you think that was.

5.) Exactly. You can't do it. You can't even answer basic questions. So when that happens, just make it my fault somehow. A FISA warrant's direct purpose is espionage or terrorism. They are amazingly specific as to how their obtained and what they can be used for, since they exist for no other reason than in support of investigations based on those two things. So is the President of the United States a spy or a terrorist?

You're clearly either too obtuse to understand or don't want to admit that you're supporting a man who by any objective analysis is clearly beholden to his Russian masters. Good news is that Jared boy is now in the crosshairs and considering he's never seen a hard day in his life, my guess is that he'll sing his heart out in order to stay out of federal prison (a place his corrupt father (like father like son?) is well acquainted with).

Russian Masters? LOL, I didn't realize it until right now, but you've drunk all the koolaide, haven't you? And again, are they spies or terrorists? Why won't you answer any of my questions?!?!

 

[konagold]

Wow, you are truly delusional. Good luck with all that.