can a get a semi auto shotgun like this?

[Deleted member 577981]

Yea you likely won't be able to explain because its not logical. I don't really see how a semi auto shotgun holding 20 is fine but a semi auto rifle with 30 makes you squirmy. An ar will do everything you want especially if recoil is something you really want to avoid. Still I wish you the best of luck in finding a gun that makes you happy.

It does sound to me like you want an "assault rifle" without having to say you own an "assault rifle".

@My Spot ...how brutal are those ar style shotguns? When I watch people shoot them on YouTube they look manageable but I dislike shotguns a great deal and suspect they do leave a marl if you shoot them for a while

I wouldn't try to read the tea lose too much there man. I just know what I want and some people are going to have a hard time accepting it because they have almost a religious view of the way they see guns. It's even hard for me to relate that someone would have a strong opinion about it.

I don't have the slightest problem with assault rifles by the way, that just has nothing to do with my thinking. I like shotguns a lot though so I want a semi-automatic shotgun with no recoil like I saw in that video.

One wonders why the Mossberg and other shotguns are even made when some guys are so absolutely certain that nobody should get one!!!

It's just weird to me. The main reason I want a shotgun is because I want one. That's the reason... And apparently enough people want them for them to be made.

 

[Deleted member 577981]

@Gutter Chris

Check out this ATV I bought. They're $8,000 and they're made in America but they're two-wheel drive and their top speed is about 28 or 30 mph. There's no rear shocks, just a shock in the seat and then the front has a little bit of a shock and they're basically 1960 technology.

As soon as I saw that I knew I wanted one so I got one but everybody gave me s*** because they were sure I would like a tw200 or any number of other dirt bikes better. Everyone said you can do almost anything on a dirt bike that you can do with the rokon only. It's faster and better .... The thing is man I know what I want when I see it and I ended up getting a TW200 just to compare and there is no comparison. The Rokon does things nothing else will do but most people just can't understand it.

I was talking to a guy on the internet about Rokons and he said the main thing that's really great about a Rokon is they have maximum torque at about a mile and a half an hour!!! Their ability to put traction on the ground from 1 to 3 mph is unparalleled!!! Who on Earth wants that man? Maybe 1 in 100,000 people would pay $8,000 for a motorcycle like that, but for me there's absolutely nothing else that even comes close to owning it. It's an incredible thing to have.

That shotgun I posted the video of is just like that. I know something when I see it. I know I want a thing when I see it and as soon as I saw that video I knew I wanted it. I heard they were around $5,000 and to me that was going to be no obstacle. I was just going to pay it... Some guy might come in and say hey man for $5,000. you can get four of these or two of these and two of those and I know that but that isn't what I want...

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[spamking]

how brutal are those ar style shotguns? When I watch people shoot them on YouTube they look manageable but I dislike shotguns a great deal and suspect they do leave a mark if you shoot them for a while

I bought one 2-3 years ago and haven't pulled it out of the safe to give it a try. I'm horrible about buying stuff and not taking the time to go shoot it. I'm hoping to remedy that when we move out of the OKC metro and get down closer to my dad and MIL.

 

[Deleted member 577981]

I bought one 2-3 years ago and haven't pulled it out of the safe to give it a try. I'm horrible about buying stuff and not taking the time to go shoot it. I'm hoping to remedy that when we move out of the OKC metro and get down closer to my dad and MIL.

Dude you need to try it and tell me because if a kickback isn't terrible I'd still get one. But I don't know why they don't put springs in all the shotguns. It's like... why have kickback when you don't have too. It makes no sense to me!!!

 

[Peteyandjia]

I want a shotgun with no recoil & I want car tires that are completely unaffected by potholes & I want an airplane with zero turbulence & I want to eat all the food but never poop

 

[Deleted member 577981]

I want a shotgun with no recoil & I want car tires that are completely unaffected by potholes & I want an airplane with zero turbulence & I want to eat all the food but never poop

If you look at the video I posted in the ts you'll see that there's a shotgun with no recoil at all.

It's a fully automatic shotgun that has zero recoil
So your post is not analogous in any way to what I said.

 

[Peteyandjia]

If you look at the video I posted in the ts you'll see that there's a shotgun with no recoil at all.

It's a fully automatic shotgun that has zero recoil
So your post is not analogous in any way to what I said.

Unless you are a rich felon with crazy connections or a Saudi prince though, you probably ain't getting one.

Don't get me wrong. If you do somehow get your hands on one someday, I fully expect you to invite me over so I can come play with it.

Short of that, join the rest of us plebs down here on Earth, & just get a Benelli M4. Or one of the newer Beretta semiautos, if you want reliability on a budget. Recoil ain't so bad if you choose the appropriate ammo, & shoulder it right.

 

[mjmj]

If you look at the video I posted in the ts you'll see that there's a shotgun with no recoil at all.

It's a fully automatic shotgun that has zero recoil
So your post is not analogous in any way to what I said.

It's 100% not true. There's no possible way to remove all recoil. Or even most recoil for that matter. Just watch the video, you see the recoil. Most semi auto guns use the recoil inertia to cycle the next round, so it reduces the felt recoil. But there's still some left. Civilian gun makers do everything physically possible to reduce recoil, there's no such thing as some top secret technology that magically eliminates recoil. Frankly, that gun is fairly rudimentary compared to some newer semi auto shotguns, it was created decades ago.

 

[Deleted member 577981]

It's 100% not true. There's no possible way to remove all recoil. Or even most recoil for that matter. Just watch the video, you see the recoil. Most semi auto guns use the recoil inertia to cycle the next round, so it reduces the felt recoil. But there's still some left. Civilian gun makers do everything physically possible to reduce recoil, there's no such thing as some top secret technology that magically eliminates recoil. Frankly, that gun is fairly rudimentary compared to some newer semi auto shotguns, it was created decades ago.

Yeah man I know what you're saying but you're being pedantic. The point I'm making is there's so little recoil that a 4-year-old could shoot that shotgun and you can shoot it with one hand and not harm your wrist or hands in any way.

 

[mjmj]

Yeah man I know what you're saying but you're being pedantic. The point I'm making is there's so little recoil that a 4-year-old could shoot that shotgun and you can shoot it with one hand and not harm your wrist or hands in any way.

I'm telling you it's not what you think it is, it's no different than any other semi auto shotgun. Take any semi auto, load it up with low brass 7.5 shot, and you'll barely notice any recoil. That's what the guy in the video is doing. That gun isn't special in that regard. In fact, I'd wager that it has more more felt recoil than some newer hunting shotguns.

 

[Deleted member 577981]

I'm telling you it's not what you think it is, it's no different than any other semi auto shotgun. Take any semi auto, load it up with low brass 7.5 shot, and you'll barely notice any recoil. That's what the guy in the video is doing. That gun isn't special in that regard. In fact, I'd wager that it has more more felt recoil than some newer hunting shotguns.

I don't believe that at all. posters above posted the best shotguns in that regard and I watched videos and it was not even close to the same. not even remotely close. did you watch the video btw where the guy holds it in one hand and continues shooting it with no recoil (yes I know what you are going to way but now you know what I mean).

 

[Killer Whale]

Yea you likely won't be able to explain because its not logical. I don't really see how a semi auto shotgun holding 20 is fine but a semi auto rifle with 30 makes you squirmy. An ar will do everything you want especially if recoil is something you really want to avoid. Still I wish you the best of luck in finding a gun that makes you happy.

It does sound to me like you want an "assault rifle" without having to say you own an "assault rifle".

@My Spot ...how brutal are those ar style shotguns? When I watch people shoot them on YouTube they look manageable but I dislike shotguns a great deal and suspect they do leave a mark if you shoot them for a while

If you shoot low recoil buckshot or slugs out of an Argo gas system it feels like butter and easy to ‘ride’ the recoil.

 

[mjmj]

I don't believe that at all. posters above posted the best shotguns in that regard and I watched videos and it was not even close to the same. not even remotely close. did you watch the video btw where the guy holds it in one hand and continues shooting it with no recoil (yes I know what you are going to way but now you know what I mean).

Yes I watched, and I've shot shotguns for 40 years. I promise you, that gun is no different than any hunting shotgun except older technology. With the right ammo, I can shoot my semi autos one handed all day. I let my kids shoot them when they were small, there's almost no recoil. The Benelli posted above would likely have less recoil than the AA-12. I have no reason to bullshit you, just trying to help you maybe save some money and realize that any modern semi auto shotgun will do what you want.

 

[Deleted member 577981]

Yes I watched, and I've shot shotguns for 40 years. I promise you, that gun is no different than any hunting shotgun except older technology. With the right ammo, I can shoot my semi autos one handed all day. I let my kids shoot them when they were small, there's almost no recoil. The Benelli posted above would likely have less recoil than the AA-12. I have no reason to bullshit you, just trying to help you maybe save some money and realize that any modern semi auto shotgun will do what you want.

Ok. One more set of question.

Are you CERTAIN that he's using low recoil rounds? How do you know that for certain? Because there are weighted springs in that gun to mitigate the recoil.

What other guns do you know that have weighted spring systems to mitigate recoil?

 

[mjmj]

Ok. One more set of question.

Are you CERTAIN that he's using low recoil rounds? How do you know that for certain? Because there are weighted springs in that gun to mitigate the recoil.

What other guns do you know that have weighted spring systems to mitigate recoil?

Literally all of them use recoil springs. Some are weighted and some aren't. But it's the gas system that reduces most of the felt recoil.
If there was a way to eliminate felt recoil invented in the 70s, every gun maker in the world would be using that system right now.

 

[Deleted member 577981]

Yea you likely won't be able to explain because its not logical. I don't really see how a semi auto shotgun holding 20 is fine but a semi auto rifle with 30 makes you squirmy. An ar will do everything you want especially if recoil is something you really want to avoid. Still I wish you the best of luck in finding a gun that makes you happy.

It does sound to me like you want an "assault rifle" without having to say you own an "assault rifle".

@My Spot ...how brutal are those ar style shotguns? When I watch people shoot them on YouTube they look manageable but I dislike shotguns a great deal and suspect they do leave a mark if you shoot them for a while

hey man I've been researching this and people are saying it has the least recoil of any shotgun on the market. they have it down to 10% recoil.

that's pretty low. its also been improved upon a ton over the years.

I have not seen ANY shotgun on the market with 10% recoil have you?

 

[mjmj]

I have not seen ANY shotgun on the market with 10% recoil have you?

Here, this isn’t even an entire gun. Just an aftermarket stock. Put this on a Benelli and you won’t even feel it. Not really, those numbers are all inflated.

Blackhawk Knoxx Shotgun Stock Reduces Up to 95% of Felt Recoil

The Blackhawk Knoxx SpecOps Stock is designed to fit any size operator with more than four inches of adjustment. Utilizing the patented dual Knoxx recoil...

www.policemag.com

 

[Peteyandjia]

Just thinking of this thread again because a gal I know just got her first shotgun, & fired it out at the range a bunch the other day. Birdshot, buckshot, even slugs. She probably weighs 115 pounds, & she did just fine. Listened to instruction on proper grip, stance, & shouldering, & had a great time. Handled the recoil no problem. If you want a semiauto shotty, just get one, there are a lotta great options these days. Don't wait for the unobtainable magic Russian space lazer!

 

[chill doggie]

First of all semi-auto shotguns will be more prone to jamming, especially if they’re magazine or drum fed.
The reason why the recoil is so low on the AA-12 is because it’s fucking heavy and it has a “constant recoil system” that isn’t available in any other shotgun.
And a system like that adds complexity which will increase the chances of jamming or another malfunction.

I bought a cheap Chinese AK shotgun and modded it myself to accept a drum magazine. In the end I was having trouble cocking it, the shells would snag and failed to feed.

Unfortunately my local gun range does not allow semi-auto shotguns neither for skeet shooting or in the target bays. So I sold it being that I wouldn’t have a chance to break it in which would be part of fixing it and getting it operable.

If you don’t have a range that allows semi-auto shotguns it wouldn’t make much sense to buy one, if you can’t have fun with it and are gonna rely on it for self protection when you don’t even know how reliable it is.




EDIT:
Actually I found this fully automatic shotgun with a constant recoil system:

https://clydearmory.com/agency-trade-in-usas-12/

You’re gonna want to first find a gun shop with an FFL 10 level license and ask them questions, it’s classified as a machine gun so expect lots of paperwork and fees if it’s even possible

 

[RerouteToRemain]

this gun is not made anymore nor is it legal in the states but I would like something similarly capable. its a 12 Gauge fully automatic shotgun with NO recoil. the thing that matters to me its the high round capacity and the no recoil. semi auto would be just fine if that's possible.

The closest thing you'll probably find is the Genesis Arms Gen 12.

Edit you will not find a shotgun with a recoil system or impulse like the AA12.

It's in a class of its own in terms of 12ga recoil. Nothing is close.

If recoil is top priority like others have said there are other great options.

I've shot the Genesis Arms 12 full auto. It's fun but definitely has recoil.