Cain Velazquez

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I feel sorry for the post retirement stuff. Not sure what's going on with that.

But anways I just realized that he got the HW belt only 7 fights into UFC career. 9 fights overall.

The other weird thing is that he was considered the GOAT for a minute while holding the belt but during that time he only had 2 opponents before losing it... not sure if that's goat material. I wish he fought Reem
 
Cain is innocent and he shouldn't even go to jail

He did nothing wrong and only people who support the perps would disagree

Maybe probation at the most for disturbing the peace but no jail time

If he does get convicted since the Cali justice system unfortunately protects :eek::eek::eek::eek:s then Cain must appeal against this corruption
 
He should be in the Hall of Fame in the Hospital Wing along with his buddies Dom and Rob. Those guys spent more time in the hospital than in teh cage. imho

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BowserJr said:
The other weird thing is that he was considered the GOAT for a minute while holding the belt but during that time he only had 2 opponents before losing it... not sure if that's goat material. I wish he fought Reem
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I saw several people on here push back against that notion for the very reason you say here, his title reign consisted of JDS and Bigfoot. Great fighters to have mauled, but a resume consisting of two people will never be deep. Thankfully the Werdum fight put all those claims to rest for good.

Cain was a pretty good fighter despite being almost as smart as Tony when it came to strength and conditioning, but the same approach in training that led to him having a nightmarish style for most HWs took a heavy toll on his body.
 
DrRodentia said:
Still crazy he was known as the absolute cardio king and lost his belt because he gassed brutally again Werdum. I know, Mexico City elevation, but still.
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And like, he didn't know it was going to be a high altitude fight? Plenty of high altitude to train at in his home state. There is more to this story I suspect.

I still think, for a short while, Cain was the best heavyweight in MMA of all time. Kind of surprised how quickly he came and went.
 
He was the current GOAT for a while, but never the all-time GOAT.
 
DrRodentia said:
Still crazy he was known as the absolute cardio king and lost his belt because he gassed brutally again Werdum. I know, Mexico City elevation, but still.
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people put a lot of weight into the elevation, but to me the biggest thing was Werdum was fighting him for every position. Werdum cranked down Cain's neck, controlled his head, broke his posture and went to work with knees every time Cain tried to clinch. every exchange Werdum met him with his own aggression. there was never a moment in the fight where Cain was attacking that Werdum wasn't attacking him back. Werdum's striking defense and ability to keep Cain's pace and actually make it a fight is what made Cain gas most of all. Cain never really was in a fight before that. everyone else he just beat the fuck out of. they might have moments where they land 1 strike, like the first JDS fight or the Cheick Kongo fight but nobody could unleash combinations on him. nobody could break his sustained attack. everyone just played defense until he overwhelmed them. Werdum was the first guy who was willing to exchange with and fight it out.

the same thing happened vs Ngannou. he tried to close in on Frank but Frank made it a fight and started swinging instead of trying to play defense and clipped Cain.

if Werdum was like JDS, Cain would've beaten the fuck out of him that night, gassed or not.
 
in his 100 percent best shape and prime
i consider him as the best HW
i dont know i might be wrong
but hes a terminator

i mean if we really looked at all his losses
the jds 1 fight he was really fat with manboobs (he had an injury)
and so on

i still believe hes the best HW
but thats just my opinion
 
Prime Cain would still be a top 5 HW if he was fighting today.

Prime, Uninjured, Sea Level Cain was unstoppable. Legitimately one of the scariest fighters in the world.
 
Pancake Sprawl said:
people put a lot of weight into the elevation, but to me the biggest thing was Werdum was fighting him for every position. Werdum cranked down Cain's neck, controlled his head, broke his posture and went to work with knees every time Cain tried to clinch. every exchange Werdum met him with his own aggression. there was never a moment in the fight where Cain was attacking that Werdum wasn't attacking him back. Werdum's striking defense and ability to keep Cain's pace and actually make it a fight is what made Cain gas most of all. Cain never really was in a fight before that. everyone else he just beat the fuck out of. they might have moments where they land 1 strike, like the first JDS fight or the Cheick Kongo fight but nobody could unleash combinations on him. nobody could break his sustained attack. everyone just played defense until he overwhelmed them. Werdum was the first guy who was willing to exchange with and fight it out.

the same thing happened vs Ngannou. he tried to close in on Frank but Frank made it a fight and started swinging instead of trying to play defense and clipped Cain.

if Werdum was like JDS, Cain would've beaten the fuck out of him that night, gassed or not.
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the fight looked like cain was having an upper hand
then after he gassed things changed
 
mangokush said:
Cain is innocent and he shouldn't even go to jail

He did nothing wrong and only people who support the perps would disagree

Maybe probation at the most for disturbing the peace but no jail time

If he does get convicted since the Cali justice system unfortunately protects :eek::eek::eek::eek:s then Cain must appeal against this corruption
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Cains an idiot
He could of been a lot smoother but instead acted like a 16 year old gang banger
Do the crime, do the time
#freeknowledge

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