Cain Velasquez is the GOAT HW and I am a huge Fedor Fan

[Number1StockBroker]

So if you don't know BJJ, you get KO'd???
LOL

keep proving to everyone how stupid you are.....

You know I meant to say submitted, keep acting dumb buddy. I should be doing other things but instead I am replying to your dumb ass. Take care genius.

 

[Perrichet]

By that point yes, he was mostly a head hunter, not the case earlier in his career.

No earlier in his career he was quiet strategic for example using his grappling to beat a kickboxer in Schilt and actually even in his last fight he used his grappling to beat that Singh dude who was also a kickboxer.

Him turning into a brawler contributed to all of his losses funnily enough

 

[ocfightfan]

If we are talking actual accomplishments then no. If we are talking about fantasy accomplishments that exist only inside the TS head then sure.

 

[Deleted member 110072]

No earlier in his career he was quiet strategic for example using his grappling to beat a kickboxer in Schilt and actually even in his last fight he used his grappling to beat that Singh dude who was also a kickboxer.

Him turning into a brawler contributed to all of his losses funnily enough

Its I think the same thing we've seen so many times, as a fighters careers progreses and maybe the commitment isn't quite there anymore they become a caricature of themselves. Rampage fell in love with his counter striking, BJ fell in love with his boxing, Anderson fell inlove with his mindgames, etc

 

[theincognito]

That's not how GOAT works; GOAT is someone who earned it, not coulda shoulda woulda. Fedor has to be it until someone has a similar or better run.

 

[SherdogGoat]

Prime Fedor would have murked prime Brock within the first minute of the first round. Cardio Cain would have gassed out against the real cardio machine Fedor and tap to strikes like he did against JDS.

 

[Ancient Warrior]

If Cain Velasquez would have fought Fedor he would have beat Fedor, so would have Brock, so dont lie to yoselves and say they wouldnt. Be real my homies, be real. Brock would have took him down and GNP and so would have Cain. Dont lie and be real. Be real is all I am asking to yoselves.


I am a HUGE Fedor fan but I likes to keep it 100 and wouldnt lie even if it behooved my case.

The typical "I'm a fan of so and so, but......."

Five pages of responses and not a single person liked your thread. Interesting.

 

[Shaddows]

You know I meant to say submitted, keep acting dumb buddy. I should be doing other things but instead I am replying to your dumb ass. Take care genius.

you are making yourself look like an idiot. The replies to my points were irrelevant.

You claim Lesnar knows BJJ because he pinned Mir down (in a wrestling move)...
That and the BJJ/KO'd comment shows why people like you give MMA a terrible name.

No common sense, no knowledge of the sport, nothing.
Just points that are baseless or simply flat out wrong.

I hope you have other things to do... because MMA is sure not your thing!

 

[lorenzofertatta]

You call me a troll or dumb yet here you are trolling or are dumb. You know damn well I was referring to their second fight where Brock took Mir down and just started GNP'ing him but yeah continue to act dumb it suits you well. And I never claimed Brock to be a BJJ wiz but he had learned enough to not get submitted again. When he first fought Mir he was a BJJ white belt but look how much better he had gotten in their second match. If he was able to stifle Mir on the ground I am sure he would have done the same to Fedor who did not have as good BJJ as Mir did.

Fun fact:Other fighters who stiffled Mir on the ground include legends such as Ian Freeman, Brandon Vera and Pe de Pano

 

[JKS]

Yeah I am sure Fedor would have KO'ed Cain just like Shogun would have KO'ed Chael. Oh wait that did not happen right? But I guess if Shogun had not fought Chael I would have been called a troll if I had stated Chael would have beaten Shogun.


Keep hugging huggers. I might be a hugger but I at least keep it 100.

The point you goof is that one fight doesnt decide a fighters all time rankings or goat status. You can have your opinion that Cain would beat Fedor and that is fine, I can see Cain winning that fight as well but I would pick Fedor. However, if Cain were to beat Fedor that doesnt mean he would be regarded as a greater Hw. Werdum and Silva both beat Fedor and no one considers either guy higher than Fedor. A fighters career and all time greatness is assessed by more than one key match up. I am disagreeing with your point that one fight declares Cain as goat, which it doesnt....not if he would beat Fedor, thats just my opinion Fedor would win.

And I dont know what Shogun and Chael have to do with anything here. And I am not even a big Fedor fan.

 

[CJohnny]

In terms of a fighter, Cain really is. There is not a single fighter who could beat the version who fought Lesnar. No one can deal with such pace and wrestling.

Injuries ruined him. His record is still good but it would be much better.

 

[pick999]

prime fedor submits prime cain

 

[CJohnny]

Lol at people picking Fedor because of his record.

Cain wouldn't be the only one to beat him. Werdum and Reem as well. But no shame on that, those are the best fighters of the division. The others HW fighters doesn't have a solid game like those 3.

I think even Cormier too, and Jones. But those would be competitive.

 

[Red Triangle]

Never underestimate the true GOAT...

"The Last Emperor" Fedor Emelianenko

Cain could beat Fedor, but Brock gets KO'd or arm barred.