Brothers in late night spoons

[yomon]

i just wana see a count of hands here

how many people are physicaly active in a sport and workout on the side, while only eating once a day.

I only eat once a day and i find no benifit or downfall to it. But one thing i did notice is that i tend to pack on wieght if i try eating breakfast for a few days.

 

[Sinister]

No benefit or downfall? This is probably the worst thing you can do to your metabolism long-term. The body is just not built to run on minimal feeding or gourging it's food only once per day at a specific time.

 

[Ian Coe]

I eat breakfast and have a snack at 1pm and get my main meal at 4 or 5 before I go training at 8pm.

I can't see how I'm getting enough calories in, but I'm not really losing weight, I'm getting fitter and stronger, so.....

 

[yomon]

i actualy find that i'm getting too many cal. at the moment. ground beef and rice mixed together is aparently very fatening.

 

[Sinister]

Explain please. Because unless you're eating 2-5,000 calorie meals, there's no way you could be getting too many calories in one sitting. It just doesn't work that way.

 

[nhbfan8080]

How would you characterize your level? Are you an advanced lifter at 7% bf or someone who hasn't broken 100kg in the bp yet? One meal a day would be very difficult to make any gains at an advanced level.

On the other hand, breaking up meals to many small portions is overrated especially for beginners and even to the fairly advanced. Most people can do pretty well on 3 meals + shakes + snacks.

 

[Sinister]

3 meals + shakes + snacks.

If you knew anything about the dieting process you'd understand that when people in the fitness industry say they eat 7 meals a day, they're talking about that same basic equation, not 7 little servings of chicken breast, brown rice, and broccoli. They include shakes and snacks as meals.

 

[nhbfan8080]

If you knew anything about the dieting process you'd understand that when people in the fitness industry say they eat 7 meals a day, they're talking about that same basic equation, not 7 little servings of chicken breast, brown rice, and broccoli. They include shakes and snacks as meals.

Actually if you knew anything yourself, eating small meals more frequently throughout the day is a bodybuilding tenet.

 

[Tkdmmafighter**]

Actually if you knew anything yourself, eating small meals more frequently throughout the day is a bodybuilding tenet.

im fairly sure kabuki knows this, and more on this subject than you, and most of us.

 

[Madmick]

Actually if you knew anything yourself, eating small meals more frequently throughout the day is a bodybuilding tenet.

Oh, wow, dude.

Do you know WHY bodybuilders do this? It's one of the only things they do right.

 

[Madmick]

Yomon, have you experimented with 5+ smaller meals daily? I've read your stuff in S&P, you work hard, dude, I think you would see some far better gains doing this. You should try it out.

 

[Sinister]

Actually if you knew anything yourself, eating small meals more frequently throughout the day is a bodybuilding tenet.

The funny thing about this comment is that it does precisely nothing to detract from what I said. For people who eat multiple meals per day, they include snacks and protein shakes as meals. The word "meal" is just a figurative term applied to practically any source of caloric intake with some scope of nutritional value. Where the idea comes from or is most commonly practiced is irrelevant.

 

[Valgarv]

No benefit or downfall? This is probably the worst thing you can do to your metabolism long-term. The body is just not built to run on minimal feeding or gourging it's food only once per day at a specific time.

The body is very well built to accommodate just that sort of thing. This is why we store excess calories as fat. Humans are no different than most mammals. Multiple meals per day is a luxury we have (now) and can utilize to our advantage. They are by no means a necessity.

I agree that eating a single meal per day is probably a disadvantage to his training.

 

[nhbfan8080]

I'll make my point clearer. One meal would be tantamount to sabotage. 3 meals +1 postoworkout shake does the job pretty well for an average person.

Splitting meals up and eating 8 times a day is overkill unless the person is already pretty advanced.

 

[nhbfan8080]

The body is very well built to accommodate just that sort of thing. This is why we store excess calories as fat. Humans are no different than most mammals. Multiple meals per day is a luxury we have (now) and can utilize to our advantage. They are by no means a necessity.

I agree that eating a single meal per day is probably a disadvantage to his training.

What sort of mammal? Are humans built more like big cats who gorge on big meals infrequently or more like grazers who munch continuously?

I agree though that very frequent meals is overkill and probably stems from the false notion that the human body cannot digest more than 30g of protein from regular meals (real food).

 

[Sinister]

Hmm, I smell a lot of silly arguing getting ready to possibly erupt in this thread.

The body is very well built to accommodate just that sort of thing. This is why we store excess calories as fat. Humans are no different than most mammals. Multiple meals per day is a luxury we have (now) and can utilize to our advantage. They are by no means a necessity.

A human can LIVE on only eating one meal per day, certainly. But unless the body is specifically storing fat there's no benefit to not feeding regularly throughout the day as opposed to attempting to assimilate all necessary caloric intake in one single sitting. Wether or not eating mutiple times per day is a luxury is a matter of social evolution, but I can assure you even when cultures were (and some that still are) more rustic, they feed more than once per day to have things like strength and speed for the gathering of more food and whatever else it is they need to get done.

And I still disagree that the human body is built "very well" for that purpose. Who wants to store fat? Look at the risks to health that causes. There have even been athletes who have run into health problems later in their careers and lives due largely to improper nutrition. So surviving for a period of time but ultimately risking health and possibly life does not equate to being built for it in my opinion.

3 meals +1 postoworkout shake does the job pretty well for an average person.

I agree though that very frequent meals is overkill and probably stems from the false notion that the human body cannot digest more than 30g of protein from regular meals (real food).

The first sentence here is accurate, but what we're paying attention to is the term "average." Not a single person who typically looks for advice in these forums is attempting to be average. So giving advice that would benefit the average person might be a little bit of under-kill. Joe Blow who doesn't accomplish shit's diet plan isn't going to appeal to anyone if you get my meaning. The information is relative. If a person is looking to improve, to do more, to do more better, then gradually they would have to become moreso and perhaps consume moreso as well.

And the notion isn't that the body cannot digest more than 30g of protein. Digestion isn't the process in-question there. The human body can digest tons of shit. The proper notion would be the amount of grams per hour the body can assimilate and use for the specific purpose of muscle growth.

 

[yomon]

Yomon, have you experimented with 5+ smaller meals daily? I've read your stuff in S&P, you work hard, dude, I think you would see some far better gains doing this. You should try it out.

yes,some time during the summer and i can say i did look nicer. i.e. more cut/buff looking, but i did lack some strength that i had with large meals. overall energy was up as well but i really prefere to eat in the one meal a day style

Also for reference my one meal is comperable to what most people eat in one day. for instance last night i had a MR.Sub 12" with double meat, 4L of milk, 2cups of rice mixed with about 2 pounds of beef with fresh mushrooms. Over a 3 hour span, and sadly i'll still behungry after about a hour of digesting. also sometimes in the morning i'll have milk or some good o'l Vector, but brekfast isn't a priority for me so i don't stuff myself.

as for lifting strength, i'm no Carnal(very few people are), but i can put up some impressive numbers. 220lb for benchpress, pushpress 140lb, deadlift 300lb, squat ATG 250lb. I realy want to build the pushpress, squat and deadlift ( 200,450,400 would be nice)

 

[blownards]

yes,some time during the summer and i can say i did look nicer. i.e. more cut/buff looking, but i did lack some strength that i had with large meals. overall energy was up as well but i really prefere to eat in the one meal a day style

Also for reference my one meal is comperable to what most people eat in one day. for instance last night i had a MR.Sub 12" with double meat, 4L of milk, 2cups of rice mixed with about 2 pounds of beef with fresh mushrooms. Over a 3 hour span, and sadly i'll still behungry after about a hour of digesting. also sometimes in the morning i'll have milk or some good o'l Vector, but brekfast isn't a priority for me so i don't stuff myself.

as for lifting strength, i'm no Carnal(very few people are), but i can put up some impressive numbers. 220lb for benchpress, pushpress 140lb, deadlift 300lb, squat ATG 250lb. I realy want to build the pushpress, squat and deadlift ( 200,450,400 would be nice)

seems reasonable. i used to have a very similar routine. i would eat one box of kraft dinner & one tub of hagan daz per day. i did this for a full year while living on my own as a young bachelour. i didn't make very good gains, but i didn't lose any weight or strength either.

 

[SlappyMacGee]

I was hoping Blownards could dispense some of his vast knowledge in this thread. Find something better to do with your time. Writing stupid shit on forums just can't be that fun.