i guess the empty seats speak for the "are you fucking kidding me" part of the house
Ban Donald Trump from Britain? We’d be better off banning online petitions
A great day for democracy, as MPs waste three hours debating a ban they couldn’t enforce even if they wanted to
Freedom of speech is all well and good. But the truth of the matter is this. A line has been crossed. And it’s time our politicians acted to prevent it ever happening again.
I’m not talking about Donald Trump here. I’m talking about people who sign petitions to Parliament. Can’t something be done to stop them? More than half a million of them signed a petition demanding the Republican publicity-magnet be banned from entering the UK. And this afternoon, all because of them, three hours of parliamentary time had to be wasted on what has a reasonable claim to being the most asinine debate in modern political history.
Here’s how pointless it was. First, it attracted, at most, only 40 MPs (the most high-profile of whom was Keith Vaz, who left inside the first 10 minutes). Second, it took place in a little room in Westminster Hall, not the Commons chamber. And third: not a single person present actually had the power to ban Trump, because that would be a decision for the Home Secretary, who wasn’t present, and in any case doesn’t want to ban him.
The worst of it, though, was that the debate was broadcast on US TV. Now that the Americans have seen this, we’ll never be able to affect intellectual superiority over them again.
Most MPs present, as it turned out, opposed banning Trump. But they were none the less determined to put him in his place.
“We British are pretty good at roasting beef,” gurgled Paul Scully (Con, Sutton). “Why don’t we roast Trump instead!”
“If he met one or two of my constituents,” cried Victoria Atkins (Con, Louth & Horncastle), “they would tell him he’s a wazzock!”
“Bring him here,” barked Gavin Robinson (DUP, Belfast East), “and let him go home with his tail between his legs!”
“Donald Trump is an idiot,” mumbled someone or other from the SNP.
Among those who did want Trump banned was Jack Dromey (Lab, Erdington). “He shouldn’t be allowed within 1,000 miles of our shores!” he barked, thus banning Trump not only from Britain but Portugal, Sweden and Poland. Whether we’ll have to build a vast Trump-blocking wall a third of the way across the Atlantic, he didn’t say.
One of the few actively sticking up for Trump was Philip Davies (Con, Shipley). Although he disagreed with Trump’s views on Muslims, he applauded him for his “straight talking”, on the grounds that “I’m a Yorkshireman”. Like almost all Mr Davies’s parliamentary utterances, his speech essentially consisted of saying “It’s political correctness gone mad” over and over for 10 minutes at steadily increasing volume.
“People find it refreshing to see a politician who has the guts to stand up and say what he thinks, even when it’s controversial!” yapped Mr Davies. By this point I’d lost track of whether he was talking about Donald Trump or himself.
Still, I don’t want to write off this festival of irrelevance completely. Perhaps it will teach us something valuable: namely, how worthless petitions to Parliament are. If it doesn’t, I might start a petition demanding a ban on petitions. Please sign and pass it on. Together, we really can make no difference.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...d-be-better-off-banning-online-petitions.html
I get it. Youre not a fan of Trump. Shame. But youre letting your bias get in the way here. Lets try again. It was a private event for Trump supporters to gather and rally for their guy. Thats what a rally is for. Its like you are throwing a private party for friends. You pay for the location, the security and everything needed. Then you have morons show up and protest by shouting, standing with signs, jewish stars or dumb t-shirts trying to get their contradicting message out there on Trumps dime. Why in the world would anyone just let that happen ? Why would you essentially pay for your detractors airtime ? Give them a stage ? Well of course if you are Bernie or Hilary who are to afraid of standing up to obnoxious protesters and will actually let them take over their rally in one of the most pathetic displays of spinelessness and pandering that i have ever seen i can see why. Would you prefer that ? Trump should just give up the time he has paid for so pathetic losers can use his rally for a platform ?
Sorry but id rather have the leader of my country have some dignity and some conviction and stand up for his and his followers beliefs against those who would drown out his message with their disgusting progressive agenda. But hey if you like spineless pathetic pandering to whatever loud mouth losers want to take over your rally and disrupt the event for thousands of your followers because your candidate has absolutely no convictions whatsoever and will bend to whoever whines loud enough, then hey thats your opinion and your entitled to it.
if only that were true,so many beta fucks over here,its sickening.
As shitty as the UK has become this is nothing.
At first I thought it was pretty funny, as in "ha-ha, just politicians being politicians! This is great entertainment!", but then I saw how passionate they are and it dawns on me that these SNP and Labour folks just might be batshit-crazy for real!
I'm really confused here:
- Is it Deflection? Could it be that these MP's are bashing on Trump because they're feeling deeply ashamed that he's speaking the truth that they all have been thinking in their heads, but are too afraid to say out loud?
- Is it Cognitive Dissonance? Could it be that they have been playing this game of social PC charades for so long, they actually drank their own kool-ade to the point of catatonic and are unable to recognize the chaos resulted from the massive Muslim immigration to the U.K?
Any British in the WR wanna clarify that up for the rest of us bewildered viewers around the world?
Oh hey! Our British frends finally showed! Do you have any insight to share in regards to these MP's bizarre behavior?
Or more importantly, is any of those 40 ostrichs actually represents your area?[/QUOTE
all of the above.......but the fear of being seen as racist is a huge problem,not just with MP's but with a lot of the population.At first I thought it was pretty funny, as in "ha-ha, just politicians being politicians! This is great entertainment!", but then I saw how passionate they are and it dawns on me that these SNP and Labour folks just might be batshit-crazy for real!
I'm really confused here:
- Is it Deflection? Could it be that these MP's are bashing on Trump because they're feeling deeply ashamed that he's speaking the truth that they all have been thinking in their heads, but are too afraid to say out loud?
- Is it Cognitive Dissonance? Could it be that they have been playing this game of social PC charades for so long, they actually drank their own kool-ade to the point of catatonic and are unable to recognize the chaos resulted from the massive Muslim immigration to the U.K?
Any British in the WR wanna clarify that up for the rest of us bewildered viewers around the world?
that person would instantly become Public Enemy #1 with a huge chunk of the population.Somebody should do a sign petition in the UK about not letting in more muslims.... just to see the numbers. More than one of those fucking polititians would be surprised
The libtards are winning in a lot of areas where there are more muslims than anything else. George Galloway won a seat in a really bad area of Bradford (probably the worst area in the UK) by basically promoting Islam.Oh hey! Our British frends finally showed! Do you have any insight to share in regards to these MP's bizarre behavior?
Or more importantly, is any of those 40 ostrichs actually represents your area? How the hell did these libtard loons actually won elections voted by British constituents?!
I'd like to assume that they don't actually represents the majority of the British people (over 600 MPs didn't show), otherwise it would mean Britain is fucked.
My biggest and maybe my only real regret in life,is not going to Australia when I had the chance......I really can't complain though,i'm not directly in contact with the people concerned,but there are so many cuckolded beta fucks and liberal,bleeding heart cunts in the UK.....yet while the fact there hasn't been so much poverty in the country in decades,you hear very little about the average downtrodden Brit,in comparison to the mooching cunts,who claim to be fleeing for their lives,only to pass through more than one safe haven after another,only to stop where welfare is best........It's absolutely, 100% true, however the way for most in England (especially the nicer areas) is that to mention it makes you a racist, hateful bigot. In the UK we have freedom of speech, but only if you say what you are told is acceptable, which means no criticism of feminism, any religion but Christianity, and everything is the white's fault, regardless of who did it.
I have invested over $10,000 and a hell of a lot of hassle to leave, as have plenty of others. Look at the masses of Brits leaving for Australia, New Zealand and Canada (none of which are easy to get visas for) and that should tell you everything you need to know. It was a great country, but there's nothing Great about Britain any more.
Trump isn't the first guy we've banned for this, it happened to Geert Wilders a few years ago. Meanwhile Abu Hamza is allowed to stand in city centres shouting his hate speech, telling Muslims to kill British soldiers and Police officers and that is perfectly acceptable (I believe we've got rid of him now, but it took a lot of years to finally do anything about it)
honestly mate its the best thing I've ever done, its cost me 6 thousand pounds already and probably another 5 or 6 thousand by the time I have my qualifications transferred, but its worth it just to not have to deal with those people.My biggest and maybe my only real regret in life,is not going to Australia when I had the chance......I really can't complain though,i'm not directly in contact with the people concerned,but there are so many cuckolded beta fucks and liberal,bleeding heart cunts in the UK.....yet while the fact there hasn't been so much poverty in the country in decades,you hear very little about the average downtrodden Brit,in comparison to the mooching cunts,who claim to be fleeing for their lives,only to pass through more than one safe haven after another,only to stop where welfare is best........
£280 million in foreign aid to India in 2012,yet they can afford to send a rocket to Marshonestly mate its the best thing I've ever done, its cost me 6 thousand pounds already and probably another 5 or 6 thousand by the time I have my qualifications transferred, but its worth it just to not have to deal with those people.
We've had veterans on the streets for decades that we supposedly don't have enough money to help, yet we suddenly have plenty to fund 'refugees'. The amount of abuse I got for pointing this out, along with the fact that we've got 'refugees' that look like Arnold in his prime just makes me glad I don't have to live there. The 30 million quid a day we throw away in foreign aid really pisses me off too when we supposedly have no money
£280 million in foreign aid to India in 2012,yet they can afford to send a rocket to Mars