This guy is so lost. He believes Hamas just wants autonomy……No, the dispute over borders wasn't the talking point, it is just a lazy excuse for why nothing can possibly ever move forward.
It's not 1967. Get over it.
This guy is so lost. He believes Hamas just wants autonomy……No, the dispute over borders wasn't the talking point, it is just a lazy excuse for why nothing can possibly ever move forward.
It's not 1967. Get over it.
Good luck getting them to understand that distinction. I’ve already tried. They seem to think things would be rosy if the Palestinians weee in charge
eh ... the UN charter ... and well pretty much everything in international law.I'm not sure what you're arguing. There isn't an international law or treaty that says one set of rules for war, one set for war when you are attacked.
There's also no legal cover for regime change if we're saying that's Israel's goal here.
It is to many, apparently.Both sides can be guilty of war crimes. It's not a competition to see who's worse.
Point me to the specific clause in the Rome Statute that implies this. I have no idea why you're referring to the UN charter if we're discussing the ICC.eh ... the UN charter ... and well pretty much everything in international law.
A country can declare war in prevention of or response to a threat deemed catastrophic enough that negotiation or other means are not an option. The charter is de-escalatory in nature meaning it sets the rules to prevent warfare and gradually concerns the actual use of force and the rules of war if it happens. Meaning inevitably it is escalatory in nature because it begins at the point of prevention of use of force and ends on terms used when use of force is utilized.
ICJ is the legal wing of the UN located in the Vredespaleis *Peace Palace* in the Hague. International Court of Justice.Point me to the specific clause in the Rome Statute that implies this. I have no idea why you're referring to the UN charter if we're discussing the ICC.
Yes...this is a thread primarily about the ICC. I've said nothing about the ICJ. You seem to have me confused with someone else or confused on the ICC vs ICJ.ICJ is the legal wing of the UN located in the Vredespaleis *Peace Palace* in the Hague. International Court of Justice.
Article 92
“The International Court of Justice shall be the principal judicial organ of the United Nations. It shall function in accordance with the annexed Statute, which is based upon the Statute of the Permanent Court of International Justice and forms an integral part of the present Charter.”
ICC is the international criminal court. The ICC put out a warrant for Netanyahu. The ICJ is asking Israel as a county to stop.
ICJ is the legal wing of the UN located in the Vredespaleis *Peace Palace* in the Hague. International Court of Justice.
Article 92
“The International Court of Justice shall be the principal judicial organ of the United Nations. It shall function in accordance with the annexed Statute, which is based upon the Statute of the Permanent Court of International Justice and forms an integral part of the present Charter.”
ICC is the international criminal court. The ICC put out a warrant for Netanyahu. The ICJ is asking Israel as a county to stop. The USA does not recognise the ICC
well I am confused because following the thread topic we were talking about the ICJYes...this is a thread primarily about the ICC. I've said nothing about the ICJ. You seem to have me confused with someone else or confused on the ICC vs ICJ
I certainly wasn't. Cant' speak for other posters. My main points were that it's pretty hard to deny some of the ICC's claims and that that "but Hamas is worse" or "Hamas started this" are irrelevant and terrible legal defenses.well I am confused because following the thread topic we were talking about the ICJ
I literally live beside the ICJ
The “bbbut Hamas” crap is doubly terrible when you learn that Israel had an active role in supporting Hamas… literally aiding terrorism.I certainly wasn't. Cant' speak for other posters. My main points were that it's pretty hard to deny some of the ICC's claims and that that "but Hamas is worse" or "Hamas started this" are irrelevant and terrible legal defenses.
Get over what? You’re the one who brought up borders to begin with then told me not to talk about borders. I’d respond but honestly don’t know how to at this point. Guess I’ll let you argue with yourself.No, the dispute over borders wasn't the talking point, it is just a lazy excuse for why nothing can possibly ever move forward.
It's not 1967. Get over it.
Get over what? You’re the one who brought up borders to begin with then told me not to talk about borders. I’d respond but honestly don’t know how to at this point. Guess I’ll let you argue with yourself.
Right and my point was that even if Israel was very generous and gave them the 1967 the Palestinians wouldn’t be satisfied and be peaceful. That was in response to you brining up borders which btw your point kind of worked against you. You’re right Israel does seem to get along with its OTHER neighbors. You are (accidentally I’m sure) implying that Palestine is the problem.I had to go back and re-read my post to see what it was you are talking about.
Apparently my comment that other countries border Israel, or that by extension I supposed that Palestine would have to border Israel also, perplexed you.
Those are categorical facts, my friend, and have nothing to do with exactly where the border is drawn.
Which was your contention.
Not mine.
Right and my point was that even if Israel was very generous and gave them the 1967 the Palestinians wouldn’t be satisfied and be peaceful. That was in response to you brining up borders which btw your point kind of worked against you. You’re right Israel does seem to get along with its OTHER neighbors. You are (accidentally I’m sure) implying that Palestine is the problem.
God you’re insufferable. They supported Hamas in the early 80s. Before they were dedicated to Israel’s destruction. But you’re too shameless to acknowledge this.The “bbbut Hamas” crap is doubly terrible when you learn that Israel had an active role in supporting Hamas… literally aiding terrorism.
It is puzzling that Israel has normal relations with the neighbors that don’t want to eradicate them.Right and my point was that even if Israel was very generous and gave them the 1967 the Palestinians wouldn’t be satisfied and be peaceful. That was in response to you brining up borders which btw your point kind of worked against you. You’re right Israel does seem to get along with its OTHER neighbors. You are (accidentally I’m sure) implying that Palestine is the problem.