Breaking grips in the armbar from bottom

[owow]

So, when I have an armbar from bottom. I have thrown my foot over the head and I am in perfect position to finish form the bottom. But the guy on top locks his arms. Like when you cross your arms basically. I do not know how to break this grip. I know how to break their grips from top if I have an armbar. But it is hard to do the same thing from the bottom. And if they have experience they can be very difficult to sweep from here. Which is why I want to have some tips on how to break grips from bottom.

From top I usually go for crossed legs rear naked choke grip where they lock their two hands. Or if they cross their arms I go for a biceps slicer to break the grip. But this is hard to do in an armbar from bottom. So I want some tips on what to do when they lock their arms like this.

Thanks

 

[don't ask]

I've learned a bunch of complicated grip breaks over the years, but the two best ones are from Judo. One, you grab their leg and fall to the side, sitting them up. When they're halfway up, you kick them in the face with your hamstring. (It doesn't need to be that hard -- it's the shock that makes them lose the grip for me, but genuinely blasting them in the face will definitely work.)

The other is to get an Americana grip on the arm you want to attack and then lean back, so their hands aren't locked over their chest, but to the side of their body. (The logic is you're strong when you're bench-pressing, but that same weight would injure you badly if someone pulled the barbell a foot to the left. Once their arms are in that weakened position, fall towards their head and go for an Americana. You can't get it from that position, but you will break their grip and then you can just lay back for the armbar.

 

[legkicktko]

Look up a baratoplata if they are RNC gripping their bicep.

 

[owow]

Look up a baratoplata if they are RNC gripping their bicep.

Hmm this one seemed really intuitive from the bottom. Thanks

I have thought about doing the regular biceps-slicer from the bottom as well. Since I usually do that on top when they lock their arms in this type of mattaleon-grip.

But maybe the biceps-slicer would not work form the bottom since it is hard to create that pressure from the bottom. Have you tried that as well? The Baratoplata probably push their body away in a better way right?