Brachial stun- legit or not?

[Connoisseur]

Hey guys. I'm sure some of you watch Tosh.0, or have seen this viral video of a Marine demonstrating the Brachial Stun.



I was just wondering- is this a real thing? Now, it doesn't seem entirely practical because of the precision and force required, as well as the fact that it seems that it could be deflected just with a proper guard.

If it is a legitimate technique, then do you think we could ever see it in MMA, or any of the striking based combat sports (K-1, Muay Thai, Shootboxing, etc)?

 

[Pseudo Science]

How does a shot like that stop the blood from flowing long enough to cause a knockout?

 

[MattyECB]

Bull shit, chops can hurt in really specific uses but not to that extent

 

[MattyECB]

Caveat being I'm an armchair fighter whos only ever practiced Kung fu for a bit, then mainly MT or Boxing so fuckit, I don't believe it and everything I know about science says no, but maybe.

 

[Connoisseur]

A bunch of TMA's, as well as the army combat guide endorse this technique.

Don't know if it works, but I don't know anyone who would willingly sign themselves up to be chopped in the neck.

 

[redaxe]

 

[Connoisseur]

Haha. Spock is one badass mofo.

 

[Blue Streak]

We have a strike like this in the syllabus of my (Japanese) jiu-jitsu school (although it comes from Kung Fu). I have never seen it done for real in real life, but the intention is to strike a pressure point in the neck. It is not intended to be a one hit KO (normally you need to hit at least 3 pressure points to achieve this, which is virtually impossible with a knife hand), just to knock someone down, but if a person is susceptible to pressure points then it may knock them out. Certainly getting a knife hand blow to the neck would not be pleasant.

I thought strikes to the neck were illegal under all major combat sport rule sets. If so, we will never see it in MMA, or K-1, etc.

 

[Connoisseur]

Only strikes to the back of the neck, to my knowledge.

 

[thirteen]

I thought this was going to be about copping a knife-hand strike across the throat - which hurts big time and will drop you like a sack of crap. lol.

As for the tech in the clip...hmm I'm not convinced as of yet.

 

[Connoisseur]

Is a knife hand any different from a Karate Chop?

 

[thirteen]

Don't know?
Was just trying to describe whatever it's called when you get whacked across the larynx.

 

[256]

it can work if you stand there and let the guy whack you hard in the neck. it hits the nerve junction in the neck.

there is another funny video of some karate instructor blasting a pimp with it in the street as he was beating up one of his girls. it is an old video, and i dont feel like looking it up atm.

 

[Nuclearlandmine]

it can work if you stand there and let the guy whack you hard in the neck. it hits the nerve junction in the neck.

there is another funny video of some karate instructor blasting a pimp with it in the street as he was beating up one of his girls. it is an old video, and i dont feel like looking it up atm.

FYI, the karate guy used an elbow strike not a chop. He hitted the side of the pimp's head and knock him out cold. Even when he was back on his feet he couldn't stand.

 

[Connoisseur]

it can work if you stand there and let the guy whack you hard in the neck. it hits the nerve junction in the neck.

there is another funny video of some karate instructor blasting a pimp with it in the street as he was beating up one of his girls. it is an old video, and i dont feel like looking it up atm.

I know which one you're talking about.

The video's kind of fuzzy so it's hard to tell what exactly he hit him with.

 

[Blue Streak]

According to the unified MMA rules strikes to the back of the neck and trachea are banned (as well as grabbing the trachea), so I guess this is a move that could be done in MMA comps. You would have to be careful though, since it wouldn't take much movement on behalf of your opponent to make it an illegal strike.

 

[Connoisseur]

True. I'm sure strikes occasionally hit the trachea though. Seems pretty unavoidable to be honest. The spine is another story, that would have to be a bit more deliberate.

As someone else mentioned, for this to work it seems that the opponent's hands would have to be pretty damn low.

 

[Payak]

we use a hammerfist. back of the neck about 3 inch across from the spine, will often take someone out but never a certainty with any strike.

 

[Cannon_6]

I know which one you're talking about.

The video's kind of fuzzy so it's hard to tell what exactly he hit him with.

It looks like a forearm to the jaw, but regardless, that was an interesting technical twist on the ol' suckerpunch.

Anyway... I'm skeptical about the "brachial stun" in the video, but I do know that the side of the neck is an excellent target for a round kick. I suppose if you could generate the same kind of force with a hand strike it would have the same effect.

 

[barnowl]

we use a hammerfist. back of the neck about 3 inch across from the spine, will often take someone out but never a certainty with any strike.

That one works too. the brachial stun is nothing special. I have been hit with it and hit opponents with it. And it does not require much accuracy either. We used to call it dead arm striking. It does not knock the opponent out so much as scramble the the nerve signals down the left side of the body.

A quick way to try it out is to get a partner that will left you hit them in the side of the neck. Next you just swing you right inner forearm at the left side of their neck. It will cause a minor blood surge to the brain and compress a major nerve bundle that controls the left arm and leg. They probably won't pass out, but should momentarily lose control of the left arm and left leg. That stun gives you time to deliver a proper knock out shot. Think of it as a prefect sucker punch instead of a knock out shot.