Boxings Jim Lampley: MMA will never have a bigger event than Boxing

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UFC] make the top people fight against the top people," Lampley told Simmons. "It's more like the NFL model where any given Sunday top guys are going to fight top guys. But of course what that eliminates for them is the pinnacle event. When everybody has four to five losses you can't put together Mayweather-Pacquiao because the public wants to see people rise up way above the normal universe and then get together in some sort of summit meeting and that's when you get the million buy Pay-Per-View, or in the case with Mayweather-Pacquiao the 4.4 million buy PPV.

"UFC will never be able to construct an event like that as long as they use the model they're using. I'm not saying it's wrong. I think there are intelligent reasons for them to do what they do but we're always going to have the bigger showcase events when they happen."

Simmons countered by pointing out that the UFC holds far more consistently high-level events. Maybe not on the level of a Mayweather-Pacquiao, but that's quite the measuring stick.

If you thought Lampley would make it out of an MMA segment without insulting fans, don't you worry.

"That's why they're doing so well," Lampley responded. "It's a lesser amount of rounds and shorter rounds and it's more violent so it suits cyber-era attention spans better than the 12-round fight does. There are a lot of reasons why for young people at this moment the UFC is probably more popular that boxing, but we're not going away.

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[Peteyandjia]

Maybe, but Boxing may never have a bigger event than Floyd/Manny.

'Fool me once' kinda thing.

 

[Queen B]

I can't see any sport beating Mayweather/Pacquiao

 

[lagofala]

I understand why this guy is trying to defend the sport he's been in for years. But honestly, we do not know what the future holds and that's what makes MMA exciting. There's just so many possibilities in this sport. Furthermore, multiple 1mil buys would beat a once in a decade or so 4.4mil buy right? It's not like boxing benefited much from that event. The only winners were Mayweather and Pacman.

 

[JohnyBrabo]

Maybe, but Boxing may never have a bigger event than Floyd/Manny.

'Fool me once' kinda thing.

First thing that came to mind. The who said we won't get fooled again. Never getting bigger than that with the lack of names in boxing today.

By the way I still enjoy boxing. Not as much as MMA but it's a very different specialized sport and I appreciate both in different ways.

 

[JohnyBrabo]

I understand why this guy is trying to defend the sport he's been in for years. But honestly, we do not know what the future holds and that's what makes MMA exciting. There's just so many possibilities in this sport. Furthermore, multiple 1mil buys would beat a once in a decade or so 4.4mil buy right? It's not like boxing benefited much from that event. The only winners were Mayweather and Pacman.

Hear hear

 

[JohnyBrabo]

I can't see any sport beating Mayweather/Pacquiao

I see several beating it on entertainment value

 

[SKSer45]

UFC] make the top people fight against the top people," Lampley told Simmons. "It's more like the NFL model where any given Sunday top guys are going to fight top guys. But of course what that eliminates for them is the pinnacle event. When everybody has four to five losses you can't put together Mayweather-Pacquiao because the public wants to see people rise up way above the normal universe and then get together in some sort of summit meeting and that's when you get the million buy Pay-Per-View, or in the case with Mayweather-Pacquiao the 4.4 million buy PPV.

"UFC will never be able to construct an event like that as long as they use the model they're using. I'm not saying it's wrong. I think there are intelligent reasons for them to do what they do but we're always going to have the bigger showcase events when they happen."

Simmons countered by pointing out that the UFC holds far more consistently high-level events. Maybe not on the level of a Mayweather-Pacquiao, but that's quite the measuring stick.

If you thought Lampley would make it out of an MMA segment without insulting fans, don't you worry.

"That's why they're doing so well," Lampley responded. "It's a lesser amount of rounds and shorter rounds and it's more violent so it suits cyber-era attention spans better than the 12-round fight does. There are a lot of reasons why for young people at this moment the UFC is probably more popular that boxing, but we're not going away.

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Man has a point. As a long time Boxing Junky, he is right. Granted Mayweather/Pacman was a snooze fest but damn did they make a lot of money off that fight. Tickets sold fast, and every swinging d*ck was watching it. Granted, boxing is pretty much dead now and way past the golden Age. Mostly, hardcore fans like myself will keep watching it and always will. Other than Canelo, not too many fighters are being hyped/brought up. Still, I'll watch it if its on or free PPV.

Could the UFC have a big events like Boxing? Absolutely. However, with Uncle Fester at the Helm and this Rebeek deal going on it won't happen anytime soon. From a numbers point of view...nice to see people buying more PPVs and taking an interest in the sport. It will get there one day.

 

[yekmurat]

Dont know how big Boxing in US but I think right now UFC is way popular than boxing

 

[The lord of bones]

Look, they did 4.4 million buys last year but didn't do a single other PPV that sold 1 million buys, UFC won't have a May-Pac for a long long time but If I'm the UFC I'd rather have 4,5 or even 6 PPVs that do around 1 million buys than just have one that sells over 4 million and turns 80% of the casuals away from the sport.

 

[TCE]

Never been a fan of boxing, I think it's boring as fuck.

 

[FootstompShonie]

How can he say that when a guy who has double digit losses just headlined a card that sold 1.5 million PPVs?

 

[ssc280]

That was a good podcast

 

[Wander777]

UFC] make the top people fight against the top people," Lampley told Simmons.

No they dont, McGregor would be defending his belt against Edgar or Aldo, not fighting in a different division for ppv buys instead.

 

[KB Warrior]

Mayweather Pacquiao was a perfect storm. For the UFC to beat that they would need some really crazy shit, like Conor holding 3 belts and challenging GSP, Ronda/Cyborg, Jones/HW Champ and CM Punk on the same card. Even then its not enough.

 

[ssc280]

How can he say that when a guy who has double digit losses just headlined a card that sold 1.5 million PPVs?

because Mayweather-Pacquiao pulled in three times that

 

[j18lee]

Never been a fan of boxing, I think it's boring as fuck.

Yeah, sometimes it's boring. It is interesting though, that your avatar is a guy who is pretty much 99% boxing and the highlight in your avatar is just a boxing KO sequence with Big Gloves at that.

 

[That209]

Look, they did 4.4 million buys last year but didn't do a single other PPV that sold 1 million buys, UFC won't have a May-Pac for a long long time but If I'm the UFC I'd rather have 4,5 or even 6 PPVs that do around 1 million buys than just have one that sells over 4 million and turns 80% of the casuals away from the sport.

This is what I was thinking, too.

UFC won't do May/Pac numbers, but doesn't UFC sell more than all their other cards on a regular basis? It's great to have an event as big as Mayweather/Pacquiao, but I'd prefer to have all my cards to do reasonable numbers instead of just one throughout the entire year. Didn't Mayweather's last fight do somewhat shitty with sales? May/Pac was fucking huge, but what about the other fights? At least with Conor you already know it's going to basically break 1 million every single time and he's only getting bigger, whereas Mayweather was at his peak by time he ended his career and didn't end with great numbers if I'm not mistaken.

I could be wrong, I don't know, I'm too lazy to look it up.

 

[j18lee]

How can he say that when a guy who has double digit losses just headlined a card that sold 1.5 million PPVs?

That was his point dude. That it's only 1.5 million and not close to 4.4 million like Mayweather because Mayweather is undefeated and Pacquiao only with like two losses in 10 years.

And he admitted that he's not saying it's better that boxers have such inflated records, but he says because of these inflated records, these mega super events can be made in boxing but not in MMA.

Of course, myself and 90% of the public prefers the MMA model where the best fight the best (and loses) than the boxing model where the best avoid the best for 10 years than have one mega event.

 

[MuddyFugger]

It took boxing 100 years to get a 4.4 mil ppv.. Lamp will just be dead when MMA buries that record... buthurt Lamp