Boxing Was Exposed - Time to change Marcus of Queensbury rules

[eternaldarkness]

It makes me laugh when I hear nonsense like ‘boxing isn’t great in a real fight’? It’s spouted by people who can’t or dont fight. As you pointed out, almost all fights involve hands, and not much else (especially where I live as no one wrestles).

I’ve boxed and Kickboxed for many years and have only ever used hands other than front kicks in fights. As an ex doorman I’ve been involved in quite a few. In a straight up fight (no cheap shots) it’s incredibly effective. Being able to hit far harder without throwing your whole weight behind it, hand speed, distancing and timing, balance, footwork all make it incredibly likely that the non boxer is either getting knocked out or walking away within seconds

front kicks are the business... especially when in gang/hool fight kinda situations.

 

[eternaldarkness]

I know that it works
Was reffering to point style boxing
But nobody is gonna be throwing a jab for three minutes before attacking on the street

I get what ya saying. There is a difference between fist fighting and boxing, paulie could box a bit but he can't "fight" for shit.

 

[eternaldarkness]

You obviously haven't thought this through very well, have you? LOL.
What do you think that a boxer is going to do when confronted in a street fight situation? Insist that they bring out a set oz 8 oz gloves & find someone willing to act as the referee? No, he or she is going to knock some fool out. And, if they need to resort to hitting below the belt, following a hook with an elbow, headbutting or damn well biting an ear off they're going to do it.
But, I can tell you from first-hand experience that the vast majority of the time such things aren't needed because after the first shot or two the fight is over.
I've been training in various martial arts & combat sports for almost four decades. I was a pro boxer & I've got black belts in kickboxing & Kajukenbo/Hawaiian Kempo. And, you know how I've won just about all of my streetfights? By using boxing. Usually just one or two right-crosses or uppercuts. On only two occasions out of the eight streetfights that I've had as an adult have I needed to resort using something other than hands. Once it was kicking/kneeing & on the other occasion it was a choke.
So, I'd say that if the only skill that I had was boxing, I'd still have done pretty well for myself.

The thing that amuses me most about fighting on te' streets is the amount of uppercuts i have used. I have landed about half a dozen good uppercuts in fifteen years of boxing (uppercuting from the outside, leading with uppercuts, or even throwing out of position will get you killed against a puncher, (as you would know!)) but I have throw about 20-30 in a half a dozen good "street"/down the local fights.

 

[Beans & Cornbread]

 

[I am your real dad]

Boxing works pretty well when both parties are tired after fighting for awhile.
But defensively boxing won't help without huge pillows on your hands.

 

[sweetviolenturg]

It makes me laugh when I hear nonsense like ‘boxing isn’t great in a real fight’? It’s spouted by people who can’t or dont fight. As you pointed out, almost all fights involve hands, and not much else (especially where I live as no one wrestles).

I’ve boxed and Kickboxed for many years and have only ever used hands other than front kicks in fights. As an ex doorman I’ve been involved in quite a few. In a straight up fight (no cheap shots) it’s incredibly effective. Being able to hit far harder without throwing your whole weight behind it, hand speed, distancing and timing, balance, footwork all make it incredibly likely that the non boxer is either getting knocked out or walking away within seconds

Spot on, my friend.

 

[sweetviolenturg]

The thing that amuses me most about fighting on te' streets is the amount of uppercuts i have used. I have landed about half a dozen good uppercuts in fifteen years of boxing (uppercuting from the outside, leading with uppercuts, or even throwing out of position will get you killed against a puncher, (as you would know!)) but I have throw about 20-30 in a half a dozen good "street"/down the local fights.

They're so effective in streetfighting, aren't they?
Especially when engaged in that ugly close-quarters range where shirts/jackets etc are being grabbed & wrenched about. They're short, brutal & fight-ending in rapid succession. And, they're pretty easy on the hands too. One isn't likely to break one using that blow.
Cheers.

 

[HelpYouFall]

They're so effective in streetfighting, aren't they?
Especially when engaged in that ugly close-quarters range where shirts/jackets etc are being grabbed & wrenched about.

I guess that's also why you see them a lot in hockey fights as well. A well placed uppercut throws a lot of people off guard, especially since 'your average Joe' isn't expecting to have punches coming from beneath his line of sight. And it's still true that it's always the ones you don't see coming that hurt you the most. I won't pretend to be a decorated pugilist like yourself, but the scraps I got into myself (when I was younger, I'm 34 now and just don't get caught up in bullshit anymore, cause in almost any case it's just not worth the trouble and getting older changes your perspective on things too I guess), it was always the shots that blindsighted me that gave me the most trouble.

 

[Seano]

I get what ya saying. There is a difference between fist fighting and boxing, paulie could box a bit but he can't "fight" for shit.

Meh, thats not true at all. I wonder if everyone commenting actually watched any of Paulie's career. Sounds like much judgement is being made based on a retired boxer's performance in a sport he never participated in.

Whats your idea of fighting? Standing there eating stupid shots and winging wide power shots?

Paulie just didn't have power. That doesn't mean he wasn't a fighter. You watch his fight with Cotto and tell me the guy didn't fight. He was right there exchanging with Broner.

 

[Jonny Ninja]

front kicks are the business... especially when in gang/hool fight kinda situations.

Ive used it as a warning in the past due to the range, and because it’s not a kick that causes real damage (In my 40s now so I don’t get any trouble nowadays). Im a big dude and have powerful front and spinning back kicks. It saved me putting myself in range, breaking my hands or potentially really hurting someone and getting banged up.

Luckily no one has come back for more when I’ve done this, so it’s definitely served it’s purpose. Anyone come back at me would get a spinning back kick or roundhouse kick, and then they are in trouble. In my experience most tough guys back off when they know you can fight, depending on how pissed they are

 

[Jonny Ninja]

The thing that amuses me most about fighting on te' streets is the amount of uppercuts i have used. I have landed about half a dozen good uppercuts in fifteen years of boxing (uppercuting from the outside, leading with uppercuts, or even throwing out of position will get you killed against a puncher, (as you would know!)) but I have throw about 20-30 in a half a dozen good "street"/down the local fights.

Haha yeah I’ve always been a bit shy at throwing uppercuts when boxing but then I’m not really comfortable being too close. Never thrown one in a street fight as I want someone at the end of my kicks ideally. I tend knee from the clinch or even throw an elbow when in that close

 

[BillytheFish]

As I said you can have some nasty fractures, some require surgery.

Or maybe in your specific case you have brittle bones and a weak system, low pain tolerance, didn't treat it right etc.

But in most cases a simple metacarpal fracture will be healed in two months top. I had it- the 2th, not the 5th, it was fine in a few weeks and the only side effects is a permanent bump in the bone. Most people I know involved in a contact sport broke a small bone at least one time, they all recovered fine.

yes it must be a low pain tolerance or brittle bones lol.

 

[DeJulez]

It's not so much "exposed" as it's just the fact that it's a different sport than fighting. It's obviously not fighting, the same way that karate or taekwando or any martial arts aren't fighting. Saying "what's the point" doesn't make any sense.

Yea punching someone in the head isnt fighting.
Grabbing someones arm and giving them an Indian rug burn is.

The guy threw a MMA kick at the boxer at :49 seconds, but the boxer KOs him instead.
Thank God this isn't actually fighting.

 

[KyleNakMuay]

Yea punching someone in the head isnt fighting.
Grabbing someones arm and giving them an Indian rug burn is.

The guy threw a MMA kick at the boxer at :49 seconds, but the boxer KOs him instead.
Thank God this isn't actually fighting.

That's not an MMA kick(wtf is that anyway) the guy just thought he was on Dancing with the Stars.

 

[Dan177]

BKB is boring, they should start bare knuckle kickboxing fights with unlimited time limits with no rounds and allow headbutts

 

[KyleNakMuay]

BKB is boring, they should start bare knuckle kickboxing fights with unlimited time limits with no rounds and allow headbutts

Something like that already exists, it's called Lethwei.

 

[DeJulez]

That's not an MMA kick(wtf is that anyway) the guy just thought he was on Dancing with the Stars.

Yea thats an MMA kick.
Weak, low, no real pop to it.
Very MMA.

 

[Jonny Ninja]

Boxing works pretty well when both parties are tired after fighting for awhile.
But defensively boxing won't help without huge pillows on your hands.

The average person, which is probably at least 80% of the population, will likely be unconscious within a couple of seconds picking a fight with a boxer. See the video dejulez posted.

 

[Seano]

No one is going for guillotines and flying armbars in your average street brawl.

 

[CatchnShoot]

Hmm, isn’t it Markiss? Deep!









Honest to Christ, you inbred need to stay in the heavies.