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Boxing Is Not Easier Than MMA (Luke Thomas point)

It's harder to make it in boxing than MMA I think. MMA is more forgiving when it comes to losses on your record.

The average boxer would definitely lose to the average MMA fighter in a fight though, as long as kicks and grappling are allowed.
 
Thought it was unanimous MMA training is harder but boxing in a ring is harder?

MMA is incline at 10mph for 3 minutes

Boxing is flat at 5mph for 15 minutes.
 
UL said:
boxing requires skills
mma doesn't
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MikalP said:
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1. Wrestling doesn't require getting punched in the face, so of course there will be less people boxing than wrestling in most areas that offer wrestling. Lots of countries outside of America (crazy that they exist, I know) don't give a shit about wrestling and even in America wrestling is on the decline.
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Not an argument, boxing doesn't require getting kicked in the face therefore there are less kickboxers than boxers. In other words bringing up a reason for why there are less boxers than wrestlers doesn't negate the fact that the talent pool is shallower. Lots of countries outside of America doesn't care about wrestling? The majority of the top boxers and MMA fighters are Americans. American culture greatly dictates boxing and MMA.

2. "Did martial arts" means very different things. Do we all know a lot of people who have done completely useless martial arts and never actually engaged in any physical combat? Yeah. Do we all know a lot of people who actually compete in combative tournaments in their respective martial arts? Nowhere near as much.

I think that boxing probably has a higher percentage of people compete out of all the people that train than most martial arts. JiuJitsu might be different but again, that doesn't result in getting punched in the face so of course that's going to have less deterrents
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I will say this again, there are far more people competing in wrestling or martial arts competition like taekwondo in America than boxing. Just a little bit of research will tell you this.
 
I want to see a broke ass former plumber become boxing champion.
 
Trifick said:
A guy who never boxed in his life on a pro lever fought the best in the world, and took him 10 rounds, and won rounds. And stop with all the excuses. He's 40, retired, carried. Matt Serra Serra is 43, and hasn't fought in 7 years. Let's see Lomachanko come in and go 10 rounds and win 3 of them. He won't last a minute.

What happened when Michael Page , an MMA fighter decided to go to boxing.




And what happened when pro boxer, Heather Hardy, undefeated champion came to MMA?
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She lost her nose.

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Her opponent, a ta kwondo champion, never took her down once. She stood and banged. Kept her distance from the punches and just kicked the shit out of her. That's all you have to do to a pro boxer. They can't do shit without boxing rules against any martial artist, or wrestler.

And whoever tries to bring up Holly Holm she was a kickboxer before she was a boxer. 6 amateur fights, undefeated, and 3 pro fights, 2-1. And her trainer was the same guy, her whole career. An MMA guy, and pro kick boxer. Never a boxer.
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femal boxing is sucking dicks ... holyshit. you guys think that women mma sucks? femal boxing is some next level shit.
the other guy is only fighting bums


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bad_k said:
I will say this again, there are far more people competing in wrestling or martial arts competition like taekwondo in America than boxing. Just a little bit of research will tell you this.
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This depends entirely where you look, but is especially dumb because boxing is a fucking martial art

My point was not that there are more of either, my point was that at the competitive level that gap hardly exists in favor of "martial arts" (agian, stupid as fuck to separate martial arts from boxing but whatever) or, in some cases, wrestling. The deeper talent pool you suggest is filled largely with people who don't actually give too much of a shit about martial arts and would not actually translate into anything relevant in real combat sports. Just because there are more shitty karate classes in every town does not mean any actual competitive talent comes out of them.

It's a bad point to try and make. There are obviously a LOT more professional boxers than any other individual combat sport, and to try and make this a "BOXING VS EVERY OTHER MARTIAL ART WHERE PEOPLE PUNCH AND KICK STUFF" is stupid as fuck because boxing not only falls under the category of a "martial art," there is no other "martial art" by your definition that is more popular than boxing - you have to try and pool them all together, which makes no fucking sense.
 
ICEibuPROfen said:
Goes to show how far boxing is from fighting.
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It doesn't. At all.

The fundamentals of the punch, the science of the punch, (aka boxing, the sweet science) is literally the first thing about fighting.
 
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MikalP said:
It doesn't. At all.

The fundamentals of the punch, the science of the punch, (aka boxing, the sweet science) is literally the first thing about fighting.
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Those who don't study history are doomed to repeat it.
 
MikalP said:
This depends entirely where you look, but is especially dumb because boxing is a fucking martial art

My point was not that there are more of either, my point was that at the competitive level that gap hardly exists in favor of "martial arts" (agian, stupid as fuck to separate martial arts from boxing but whatever) or, in some cases, wrestling. The deeper talent pool you suggest is filled largely with people who don't actually give too much of a shit about martial arts and would not actually translate into anything relevant in real combat sports. Just because there are more shitty karate classes in every town does not mean any actual competitive talent comes out of them.

It's a bad point to try and make. There are obviously a LOT more professional boxers than any other individual combat sport, and to try and make this a "BOXING VS EVERY OTHER MARTIAL ART WHERE PEOPLE PUNCH AND KICK STUFF" is stupid as fuck because boxing not only falls under the category of a "martial art," there is no other "martial art" by your definition that is more popular than boxing - you have to try and pool them all together, which makes no fucking sense.
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Okay now you are playing a silly semantics game, generally speaking nobody calls boxing a MARTIAL ART, it's a sport and its a combat sport but when is the last time you saw a boxer call himself a martial artist?

Obviously when I said Martial Arts I was referring to the traditional sports that requires a GI like Karate, TKD, Kung fu etc

Only under MMA context can you group boxing and wrestling into martial arts, I can't believe you made me explain this to you that's just fucking retarded as you would love to say.

I know plenty of people who competed in wrestling and point karate growing up, boxing is very rare. Just walk into any boxing gym and try to find an actual boxer there that is training to compete.
 
I agree. Boxing has much deeper skill pool, but MMA takes a lot more widespread fight knowledge. Boxing is obviously just a piece of the whole combat sports spectrum, but it is super fucking hard to be elite. In MMA you could have shitty hands and win titles with grappling and wrestling. In boxing, its all you got.
 
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