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hedging a lil bit with khan dec +380 ish.. he is looking very impressive early on
 
wack3d said:
Canelo in R7-12 would be a nice end to the evening :)
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That's my ideal outcome too, especially 10-12. Although I think Khan took the first two rounds. 20-18 so far.
 
not looking that good for the finish. Canelo cant catch him clean..
 
Khan looks great. I thought he'd be able to do this for 2-3 rounds but so far no signs of slowing. I think my Canelo bets are in trouble here unless he finds a way to slow Khan down.
 
sucks he could not wait for r7 though :confused: so close
 
Holy shit goodnight!
 
Lol glad i didnt pull the trigger. Won £100 on my parlay over 1k up on the night
 
mkess101 said:
You think Khan can make Canelo respect him though? Khan is slick but even when he doesn't have mental lapses where he over commits or moves straight forward he's still not elite defensively. He's good but hardly unhittable.

It's hard for me to see Khan avoiding getting touched at some point and he's shown with lesser punchers than Canleo he can't handle it. He doesn't even seem to know how to tie up when he gets stung. He instead goes into panic mode where he starts wining power shots back and that's the farthest thing from what he does well. I think Canelo can walk through anything Khan throws and I don't think Khan can stick and move and avoid exchanges for 12 rounds.
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Well going into the 6th I could certainly see the tide turning and tempo for Canelo picking up. Didn't think I'd see that happen though. Canelo jad only landed big body shots to that point. It wasn't the pressure that got to Khan it was one punch that proved to be inevitable. Mentally khan can't stay in it the zone for 12 rounds.
 
So frustrating. Had him in R7-12 and the odds for him ML was up to 1.66, but I hesitated to long cause I wanted it up to 1.75... Should not have been so greedy.
 
thesharktank said:
Well going into the 6th I could certainly see the tide turning and tempo for Canelo picking up. Didn't think I'd see that happen though. Canelo jad only landed big body shots to that point. It wasn't the pressure that got to Khan it was one punch that proved to be inevitable. Mentally khan can't stay in it the zone for 12 rounds.
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Khan looked better than I thought he would. Or maybe that's not the right way to put it. I thought he'd look exactly like that but only for 2-3 rounds. After rd 5 I was thinking maybe you were right. But 36 minutes is a long time to keep that discipline against a bigger guy with way more power who just doesn't have to respect your punching at all. If you are an all time great defensive fighter like Mayweather or Sweet Pea you can overcome that size difference with pure skill. Khan isn't one of those guys.
 
Was down 3u going into the Canelo/Khan card, hit the under on the Lemieux fight for 1u (shit stoppage by the corner but think he was done anyway) and doubled up my Canelo itd bet so I had 6u on him in all. Ended up 4u b/c of it, thank God he got the ko or Im fucked. Like mkess I figured Khan would come out quick and probably look pretty good early, but he looked much better than I thought he would. But Canelo started to size him up eventually like most of us thought he would, and ended it with that beautiful feint and put him out cold, looked a lot like the Kirkland ko. Both guys get caught with right hands that they didn't see coming while they were loading up on lefts. Brutal ko.

Anyway went degen and chased a bit too hard on Canelo but finally one of my bigger bets pays off, been losing them a lot more than I'm used to recently.
 
anyone else like wilder to beat povetkin? maybe not as technical but size and power i think will be the factor.
 
piglord said:
anyone else like wilder to beat povetkin? maybe not as technical but size and power i think will be the factor.
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yeah I'm with you there. Povetkin's looked good recently but I think Deontay's "athleticism and explosiveness" along with his height and especially his reach advantage (5" height and 8" reach) and he's in his prime age and career wise, will carry him through to a win here. While Povetkin isn't necessarily old for a hw he's still 36 and has more wear and tear on his body. I also still have that reminder off him barely squeaking by a blown up cw in Huck and was getting mauled by the smaller guy there. I think he's at a better point in his career than he was back then but it's still something to consider when going up against such a huge puncher in Deontay.

Also like I said, Povetkin has looked good in his wins since the Wlad loss, stoppages over Charr, Takam, Perez, Wach. Charr isn't very good, Wach is a giant but is definitley not good, and Takam and Perez are decent but Takam is basically a journeyman type guy and Perez is talented but hasn't really looked the same since he almost killed Magomed. You could pick apart Wilder's resume as well just pointing out Povetkin's performances might not necessarily be indicative of how he'll look against a high level guy in Deontay (for modern hw's at least) who's also got the size, athleticism, and power that could give Povetkin a whole lot of problems. even with the fight being in Russia I like the Murrican to go in there, pump the jab from the outside with the right behind it one of those right hand bombs gets him the stoppage.
 
yeah you have to think at one point in the fight povetkin is gonna get caught by something NASTY. i think the odds are generous on wilder so will be playing him with a decent amount.
 
I am heavy on Povetkin at an average of +143, will be attending this fight as long as I manage to sort out a Russian visa this week (costs like £90, way to encourage tourism, guys!)

To be fair I was fairly big on Stiverne over Wilder which was a bad play, I didn't realise quite how mediocre Stiverne was. Wilder was impressive in that fight, though, I thought if he didn't get the early KO, Stiverne would take over as it went on. I always thought Wilder was an accident waiting to happen until that fight but he showed enough to at least be taken seriously, used the jab, boxed to a plan, went 12 for the first time comfortably.

However, Povetkin is a genuine top 5 guy and I'm not sure if Wilder is ready for this, especially now it's in Russia, which will be crazy intimidating. I mean, not that long ago, Wilder got rocked by Eric Molina, a full time high school teacher who doesn't have serious HW power.

I think Povetkin is on the juice post the Wlad fight, his physique is way better and he is punching harder. (Agree Perez lost something post-Mago but a KO1 was a big statement.)

In terms of opponents, disagree with the idea that Takam is a journeyman guy, true in the sense he has to travel for opportunities but I think he is a very solid fighter, maybe top 10, who would handle anyone Wilder has beaten.

The big question for me is - can Deontay hold on the inside with any success? His jab is decent but Povetkin is so much more technically adept that I don't think that will be enough. Holding was a massive weapon for Wlad which helped wear Povetkin down and the ref was a joke for letting it happen. Not sure Wilder will be stronger than Povetkin, they weigh about the same, he is taller not heavier, although has leverage. Wilder can't really fight on the inside so if Povetkin gets inside his jab he needs to hold or he is in serious trouble.

Let's remember that Povetkin went the distance with a prime Wlad so his chin is proven to be solid. Okay, there were four knock-downs but at least two of them involved a lot of wrestling from Wlad, Povetkin wasn't badly hurt. Not saying Wilder can't get a KO but it won't be easy. On the reverse, I definitely think Povetkin punches hard enough to score a KO here.

I may be way off but for me Povetkin is a 65-35 kind of favourite here so I love him at dog odds.
 
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