Boxing Discussion VIII

[2 Sharp]

I think Jack Catterall is a solid bet this Saturday. To me Barboza has been lucky to keep his O, I thought he lost to Jose Carlos Ramirez who is on the decline last time out. Catterall is on the top of his game and used to big fights now. He has the southpaw advantage and counter punching ability over Barboza. Add in home field advantage for Catterall. Hard to see Barboza going on the road to get a decision, in the UK.

 

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Keyshawn KO +155
$250

Keyshawn 1-6 +550
$50

Honestly surprised Keyshawn decision line is favored to the degree it is over the KO line. He is much bigger, more athletic, more dynamic and Berinchyk is one of the weakest punchers of the top guys @ LW and Keyshawn sees that and won't be apprehensive to take shots. He had a solid performance against Vaquero but he is a bloated FW that isn't hard to hit and should never be at LW.

 

[JC615]

Awesome! Those bodyshots were destructive.

 

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Keyshawn KO +155
$250

Keyshawn 1-6 +550
$50

Honestly surprised Keyshawn decision line is favored to the degree it is over the KO line. He is much bigger, more athletic, more dynamic and Berinchyk is one of the weakest punchers of the top guys @ LW and Keyshawn sees that and won't be apprehensive to take shots. He had a solid performance against Vaquero but he is a bloated FW that isn't hard to hit and should never be at LW.

$387.50
$250

Easy work. Keyshawn a problem for everyone @ LW.

 

[JC615]

$387.50
$250

Easy work. Keyshawn a problem for everyone @ LW.

Most definitely! Lots of fights tomorrow but hard to see much value.

 

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Keyshawn KO +155
$250

Keyshawn 1-6 +550
$50

Honestly surprised Keyshawn decision line is favored to the degree it is over the KO line. He is much bigger, more athletic, more dynamic and Berinchyk is one of the weakest punchers of the top guys @ LW and Keyshawn sees that and won't be apprehensive to take shots. He had a solid performance against Vaquero but he is a bloated FW that isn't hard to hit and should never be at LW.

Just realized my Keyshawn 1-6 line was +500 not +550.... I swear it was +550 when I bet. Oh well. Hopefully anyone who tailed made some money.

 

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Most definitely! Lots of fights tomorrow but hard to see much value.

I think Barboza has potential to look value +200 just think he will get a raw deal on the cards in Manchester if it's close. Both are really average and uninspiring fighters at this level but I think style clash gives Barboza a lot of chances to look good with his timing, defense and footwork just that the type of fight he'd look the side in doesn't get scored or rewarded well as the road fighter in the favorite's hometown.

The southpaw struggles against McComb he was gifted a decision in are worrying though but despite the stance Catterall doesn't fight much like him at all or have his physical dimensions especially height. Not gonna bet it prefight but will look for a live bet in that one by around rounds 3 or 4 if Barboza's line gets wide enough but he is still having solid work. I imagine he would look better the later it goes if he looks the side and that a win for him would look more "controlling the fight" with cleaner work especially on the backfoot.

 

[JC615]

I think Barboza has potential to look value +200 just think he will get a raw deal on the cards in Manchester if it's close. Both are really average and uninspiring fighters at this level but I think style clash gives Barboza a lot of chances to look good with his timing, defense and footwork just that the type of fight he'd look the side in doesn't get scored or rewarded well as the road fighter in the favorite's hometown.

The southpaw struggles against McComb he was gifted a decision in are worrying though but despite the stance Catterall doesn't fight much like him at all or have his physical dimensions especially height. Not gonna bet it prefight but will look for a live bet in that one by around rounds 3 or 4 if Barboza's line gets wide enough but he is still having solid work. I imagine he would look better the later it goes if he looks the side and that a win for him would look more "controlling the fight" with cleaner work especially on the backfoot.

Great points. I think I'll sprinkle on the draw as well. I agree about Catterall getting the nod at home. Perhaps Jack's decision line will be + money at some point; assuming Barboza is looking solid and in the fight.

 

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I think Barboza has potential to look value +200 just think he will get a raw deal on the cards in Manchester if it's close. Both are really average and uninspiring fighters at this level but I think style clash gives Barboza a lot of chances to look good with his timing, defense and footwork just that the type of fight he'd look the side in doesn't get scored or rewarded well as the road fighter in the favorite's hometown.

The southpaw struggles against McComb he was gifted a decision in are worrying though but despite the stance Catterall doesn't fight much like him at all or have his physical dimensions especially height. Not gonna bet it prefight but will look for a live bet in that one by around rounds 3 or 4 if Barboza's line gets wide enough but he is still having solid work. I imagine he would look better the later it goes if he looks the side and that a win for him would look more "controlling the fight" with cleaner work especially on the backfoot.

LIVE bet Barboza +250
$75

Liking his work so far. Don't imagine it gets much wider than this barring a big moment or knockdown from Catterall which I don't see either really having in this one.

 

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Barboza is clearly up but odds after 11 have him +100 and the British commentators acting like Jack up comfortably lol. Jack has won 4 rounds tops. Not surprising and not cashing out for guaranteed profit. Haven't eaten a boxing robbery yet this year so let's see.

 

[JC615]

Barboza is clearly up but odds after 11 have him +100 and the British commentators acting like Jack up comfortably lol. Jack has won 4 rounds tops. Not surprising and not cashing out for guaranteed profit. Haven't eaten a boxing robbery yet this year so let's see.

Fuucckkk. I was gonna LIVE bet Barboza +163 by decision but put more on the draw instead like a true asshole. Sick +250 hit!

 

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LIVE bet Barboza +250
$75

Liking his work so far. Don't imagine it gets much wider than this barring a big moment or knockdown from Catterall which I don't see either really having in this one.

Cash it. Props to the Brits for playing fair. A draw for Jack would have been egregious. 7 rounds would have been preposterous and impossible.

Barboza never got wider than +250 so I timed it perfectly. Flirted with +125 to evens by mid to late rounds.

 

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My stream lagged and just realized it was a split decision

Execute that judge that had it Jack.

 

[burge13]

Keyshawn KO +155
$250

Keyshawn 1-6 +550
$50

Honestly surprised Keyshawn decision line is favored to the degree it is over the KO line. He is much bigger, more athletic, more dynamic and Berinchyk is one of the weakest punchers of the top guys @ LW and Keyshawn sees that and won't be apprehensive to take shots. He had a solid performance against Vaquero but he is a bloated FW that isn't hard to hit and should never be at LW.

Great stuff here.

 

[burge13]

Should Callum Smith be this big an underdog?

Bivol split decision +750 here and Majority Decision +1300 might be worth a go. Expecting a close fight and him finishing is very unlikely

 

[jnes]

Should Callum Smith be this big an underdog?

Bivol split decision +750 here and Majority Decision +1300 might be worth a go. Expecting a close fight and him finishing is very unlikely

Buatsi is good but hasn't wowed me. Smith does have lots of miles on him though.

What are your thoughts on Zhang Kabayel FDGTD at -175? That has to have some value I can see it being more -250.

 

[burge13]

Buatsi is good but hasn't wowed me. Smith does have lots of miles on him though.

What are your thoughts on Zhang Kabayel FDGTD at -175? That has to have some value I can see it being more -250.

Yeah I assumed it'd be -2XX tbh. So much depends on Zhang though, he hits like a truck but if he only throws 2 punches a round and stays away the rest of the time, there's not much going on to get a stop...

Not a fight I have a great read on, HW banger that should end inside 4 but never know. Probably better spots on the card tbh

Such a shame Shakur is on this, first fight is 2am for me so would get up for it but knowing there's an absolute snoozer of a fight around 5am, I may as well just get up at 6 and watch the last 2 big ones live, catch the rest on replay. Turki usually uploads it all to Youtube next day anyway

 

[jnes]

Yeah I assumed it'd be -2XX tbh. So much depends on Zhang though, he hits like a truck but if he only throws 2 punches a round and stays away the rest of the time, there's not much going on to get a stop...

Not a fight I have a great read on, HW banger that should end inside 4 but never know. Probably better spots on the card tbh

Such a shame Shakur is on this, first fight is 2am for me so would get up for it but knowing there's an absolute snoozer of a fight around 5am, I may as well just get up at 6 and watch the last 2 big ones live, catch the rest on replay. Turki usually uploads it all to Youtube next day anyway

Ya, I feel a stoppage doesn't just rely on Zhang though. Obviously Zhang is super dangerous the first 6 rounds and finish anyone but after that point I could see Kabayel's ruthless bodywork gassing Zhang even quicker and lead to a stoppage later in the fight.

 

[burge13]

Ya, I feel a stoppage doesn't just rely on Zhang though. Obviously Zhang is super dangerous the first 6 rounds and finish anyone but after that point I could see Kabayel's ruthless bodywork gassing Zhang even quicker and lead to a stoppage later in the fight.

For sure, I think Zhang being so low output leaves less openings for opponents though.

Should finish ITD but I'm not playing it personally

 

[Brockstar]

Should Callum Smith be this big an underdog?

Bivol split decision +750 here and Majority Decision +1300 might be worth a go. Expecting a close fight and him finishing is very unlikely

I like fight goes to split decision (+450) and fight ends in Majority Decision (+850). If a fight is a split it is hard to predict who the winner will be.