Boxing Discussion III
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I think the referee used the 'if the ropes hold you up from going down that is a knockdown' rule.
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Got buried 4 unit loss. Pls come back ufc!
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Pacquiao should win, but he's too juiced even for parlay fodder
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Might end up being square but think both of these hit so laid the juice anyway.
2.14u Wilfredo Vaszuez Jr -214
2.5u WV2-JuanMa un9.5 -250
2.14u Wilfredo Vaszuez Jr -214
2.5u WV2-JuanMa un9.5 -250
Juice is right! I am not too familiar with these boxers, both former multiple weight champions apparently. Do you think Lopez is that bad, or is he shot at this point? Vasquez asked for a catch weight because he is smaller I read. Does that matter?
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I dont think the catchweight matters much, here's why. Juanma is the epitome of kill or be killed and for proof of this these stats stick out: Lopez has had 39 pro fights, only 3 of those fights have went to Dec, so 36 fights he has either won or lost by ko/tko. All 5 of his losses have come by stoppage in the last 5 years and the last fight he's won by Dec was 7 years ago against Mtagwa where he struggled pretty badly iirc. He's only 33 but the mileage he's been through and the fact that he's a smaller fighter means that he'll age much quicker than heavier fighters.
as for WV2, he is a durable guy but also has a high ko % of his own (Lopez 31 out of 35 wins by ko and Vazquez 19 of 24 wins by ko). My thinkng is that although he's naturally the lesser skilled of the two, WV2 is only a year younger but has much less mileage on him and he's the guy who will be at a big advantage to take the Dec if it somehow goes the distance. That being said, even though both lines are very juiced, i think Vazquez will most likely win by ko and it'll cover both bets. If not I just can't see Juanma lasting the distance AND getting the nod on the cards as well.
Just doesn't seem likely to me, Lopez is so beaten down at this point, it's actually surprising he's still allowed to fight anymore against anyone half decent. Probably b/c the fight's in PR is the only reason this is being sanctioned. If Lopez does win this I think it's almost exclusively gonna be by stoppage, WV2 is tough but as i mentioned Lopez is just that kind of fighter where he either ko's you or gets ko'd, not much wiggle room. He hasn't been to a Dec in 7 years I don't see that trend stopping now at his age and mileage especially.
Anyway that's my b/d for both, hoping to hit both bets but kind of a quasi hedge by taking both Vazquez and the under in case Juanma does somehow get the ko or WV2 can't get Lopez out of there and takes a Dec for whatever reason.
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