Boxing Discussion III

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JimGunn said:
Thanks for the info. I took the dog small to win 1u at least:

Art Hovhannisyan (+310) vs Diego Magdaleno $32.26 for $100.00
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unfortunately there wont be live betting to hedge

im on the opposite side of you on the burns/relikh fight. kiryl missed weight albiet by four ounces; dont know if that will affect the lines or the outcome of the fight. the guy supposedly has over 300 amatuer fights, losing 20, so he has some experience to go along with his supposed power

burns has been through a lot of wars and in the last six years and has take oven 200 punches from 135s katsidis, martinez, beltran, crawford, figueroa and 175 from dejan

if 140 relikhs power is legit this might not be a good matchup for burns at this stage of his career
 
quincy k said:
if 140 relikhs power is legit this might not be a good matchup for burns at this stage of his career
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Burns is tough as hell. Went the distance with Terence Crawford (never really in trouble) and Zlaticanin, and fought most of another fight with a broken jaw. Be very surprised to see him stopped, especially with a passionate home crowd behind him.
 
bruthead said:
Burns is tough as hell. Went the distance with Terence Crawford (never really in trouble) and Zlaticanin, and fought most of another fight with a broken jaw. Be very surprised to see him stopped, especially with a passionate home crowd behind him.
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Im on burns dec +300 brut. What are your thoughts on this one
 
Sham5916910 said:
Im on burns dec +300 brut. What are your thoughts on this one
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I'm also on Burns by stoppage, missed the opener, took +250. Burns isn't a big puncher but this is a huge step up for Relikh who has never gone past 8 rounds and only past Round 5 once. So Burns definitely has a decent chance to stop him in the second half of the fight unless Relikh has a lot more potential than he's proven to date.
 
bruthead said:
Burns is tough as hell. Went the distance with Terence Crawford (never really in trouble) and Zlaticanin, and fought most of another fight with a broken jaw. Be very surprised to see him stopped, especially with a passionate home crowd behind him.
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forget the crawford fight, ricky fought through a broken jaw in his draw with beltran. of course hes tough

burns said after the figueroa fight that oscars weight was what gave him problems

http://www.skysports.com/boxing/new...ns-lost-an-exciting-decision-to-omar-figueroa

if relkh is a legit 140 the weight might catch up to burns here

and fights lke crawford, where ricky absorbed over 200 punches, is the reason why im taking the dog here.

might also be able to hedge if burns is kd like he was in his fight with dejan
 
Fair enough but seems a strange logic to say that because Burns has absorbed a lot of punches well in the past his chin will be diminished now, even though he's never shown any signs of it. He's 33, that's not that old these days, and has looked good in his last four outings.
 
the punishment and his age is not the entire reasoning. im also looking at relikhs amatuer background, the chance that he could have legit 140 power, burns admitting that omars size was too much and the fact that hatton thinks that hes ready. ricky doesnt need the money and i cant see why he would agree to the fight if his fighter doesnt have a chance. a brutal war ending in a ko can run his fighter. if relikh had no amatuer career or hatton in his corner i wouldnt even think about having an action play on this
 
quincy k said:
the punishment and his age is not the entire reasoning. im also looking at relikhs amatuer background, the chance that he could have legit 140 power, burns admitting that omars size was too much and the fact that hatton thinks that hes ready. ricky doesnt need the money and i cant see why he would agree to the fight if his fighter doesnt have a chance. a brutal war ending in a ko can run his fighter. if relikh had no amatuer career or hatton in his corner i wouldnt even think about having an action play on this
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The difference between 136 pounds and 140 pounds is so tiny though isn't it? Unless you are saying that Burns is small even for 136 and that Relikh is very large for 140, then wouldn't the size difference be relatively insignificant? Here's a face off from the weigh-in today.

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I'm with Quincy here, 1u on Relikh for me. Fight should be closer than that, imo. Burns has looked good recently but has a lot of miles on him. Relikh seems pretty legit but obviously a big step up for him. Should be an interesting fight but had to bite on the dog here, see some value at +340.
 
JimGunn said:
The difference between 136 pounds and 140 pounds is so tiny though isn't it? Unless you are saying that Burns is small even for 136 and that Relikh is very large for 140, then wouldn't the size difference be relatively insignificant? Here's a face off from the weigh-in today.

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depends on the fighter. jlc was about the same height as ricky and was a great 135, arguably beat floyd. at 140, not so much.

burns all but admitted that hes not a jww and is making this mandatory to get the money from broner. thats where the money is at and he doesnt have much time left. nobody knows how much he stashed away before his bankruptcy just the same as nobody knows, other than hatton and relikh himself, if kiryl is packing glass.
 
My action this weekend:

Ricky Burns wins inside distance (+190) vs Kiryl Relikh $52.63 for $100.00
Dillian Whyte (-1000) vs Ian Lewison + Scott Cardle (-700) vs Kevin Hooper + Ricky Burns (-400) vs Kiryl Relik $175.00 for $100.00

Art Hovhannisyan (+310) vs Diego Magdaleno $32.26 for $100.00

Liam Walsh wins by 12 round decision (-126) vs Andrey Klimov $50.40 for $40.00
 
took some small bets on:

Whyte Dec +500 ish (betfair exchange)
Carde Dec -130 (betfair exchange)
Relikh +325 (5d)
 
The cut a concern for Dec? My quality isn't good enough to see it
 
Just sat down is it to side of eye? Long as aint right above be ok
 
Yeah it's hard to see as I don't have the best quality to watch
 
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