Boxing Discussion III

[pytycrys]

I got Granados at +333 at Paddypower.

 

[bruthead]

Also worth noting that Broner has used Granados as a sparring partner before. Given it is a non-title fight it would be strange for Broner to choose to fight Granados if he was not confident he has his number. But there is no way I would lay juice on Broner whose commitment to the sport is questionable.

 

[timmyclax22]

Who do you guys like to win Brook or Spence?

 

[bruthead]

Looks like the odds for Brook/Spence will be pretty 50/50 and I wouldn't take a side at those odds. Too many unknowns. Spence has looked spectacular but has never fought a top 10 fighter. Brook is significantly more proven but has to drop from middleweight back to welterweight and has struggled to make weight at 147 even before that. It will be interesting to see how Brook looks at the weigh-in.

It's a great fight, don't think we have seen the best of Brook yet, let alone Spence.

Looks like it will be in the UK in terms of judging.

 

[quincy k]

kell brook got the golovkin shit beat out of him and his broken orbital bone could easily go antonio margarito when spence lands one of his devastating hooks.

errol spence is probably going to go off at + money when all that UK money comes in and if spence has good punch resistance he should not have problems with brook

imo, only true boxing fans know how good a 147 spence is especially if you believe the rumors on how he put a hurting on prime floyd when mayweather was training for his fight with ortiz.

floyd was so angered he kicked the green spence out of the gym

 

[piglord]

+900 for roy jones jr to lose again lol. he's fighting a bare knuckle boxer.

 

[null]

I couldn't resist betting against 48 year old Roy Jones Jr. for a small play at this price even though he outclasses his opponent by a mile skillwise in this cruiserweight bout Friday evening. Bare knuckle champion Bobby Gunn is no spring chicken himself at 43 years of age, but has traditional boxing experience against decent competition and hits hard even in a regular boxing glove bout such as this.

Bobby Gunn (+1050) vs Roy Jones Jr. ~$27.38 for ~$287.47


Expanding on my previous comments a bit here: I love Adrian Granados, but I hate his price in this fight. Granados won me money against Amir Imam in his last bettable fight as a +900 underdog in 2015, and I was hoping that he'd be a bigger dog against Adrien Broner than the +250 or +260 where it's at now. I think it's significant that Broner changed the weight of this contest from a catchweight of 142 pounds to 147 pounds the other day which Granados had to agree to as the b-side fighter. I think that's in Broner's favor as he is the one that asked for it and he's naturally the more heavily muscled man, especially in the torso and arms. Based on the press conferences, Broner has also been sounding like he's taken his training camp seriously and not caught up in personal drama this time around, also something that Granados might have taken advantage of. I'm sure that Granados is going to be very game however, and I feel compelled to put a bet on him as one of my favorite boxers and also due to his high pressure swarmer style which may tend to stifle Broner's output at points. These guys know each other as Granados trained with Broner as his sparring partner before the latter's Maidana fight so I expect this to go to a decision or a late stoppage. I'm definitely going to hedge with Broner late stoppage and also by split and majority decision if those props become available, as Granados tends to get at least one judge on his side in all of his four losses.

Adrian Granados (+260) vs Adrien Broner $40.00 for $104.00
Adrian Granados wins in round 10-12 (+2200) ~$10.14 for ~$223.08
Adrien Broner wins in round 10-12 (+650) ~$15.21 for ~$98.87
Not Adrien Broner Inside Distance (-155) $62.00 for $40.00
Adrian Granados/Adrien Broner starts round 10 (-147) ~$75.04 for ~$51.04

 

[LEMONZEST]

Jeez Gunn down to +500 on 5d...wow.

I took some on 5d for +900 see how goes.

 

[null]

Bobby Gunn hasn't budged from +900 at Bookmaker. Almost feel like adding more.

 

[quincy k]

the 48-year-old jones jr is also coming off surgery for a torn bicep.

if it goes to the cards gunn should get a fair shake as he has fought for the promoter before

http://nymag.com/betamale/2016/06/bare-knuckle-boxing-comeback.html

 

[quincy k]

365 is offering live betting on the jones jr/gunn fight.

if i wouldve known this i wouldve bet more on bobby as there is a good chance well be able to middle the +900

 

[Sham5916910]

What side is it on?

 

[piglord]

i pulled the trigger on gunn (lol) at +550, why not?

 

[quincy k]

What side is it on?

if you are referring to me it is bet365

gunn is down to +450.

 

[Davem10]

Bobby Gunn hasn't budged from +900 at Bookmaker. Almost feel like adding more.

I put a small bet on gunn too...........when i thought the fight was bare knuckle

Now ive seen its gloved it was Roy Jones or no bet

Ive just seen Roy Jones by stoppage is at even money, that is clearly the best bet

Bobby Gunn shouldnt have anything for Roy and i doubt he can actually last 12 rounds, can definitely see a late stoppage with an accumulation of punches to a gassed out Gunn

Ive put money on Jones by stoppage

 

[timmyclax22]

Put a flyer on Gunn to win $20.

I'm taking a look at Thomas Williams Jr. for tomorrow night. Anyone have a read on that fight vs. Marcus Browne?

 

[null]

Roy Jones Jr. by stoppage at even money is quite a line if that is real! You sure you read that right, Davem10?

 

[bruthead]

Williams and Browne are probably similar on a talent level. Williams' win over Edwin Rodriguez is the best of either man but Browne is undefeated.

Williams is a kill or be killed fighter, his chin is not great but he was able to stand and trade with a world-class fighter in Adonis Stevenson for three action-packed rounds before being ground down and stopped in the 4th.

Most people thought Browne was lucky to escape with a split decision win in his last fight against a Bosnian guy called Radivoje Kalajdzic. It is possible Browne underestimated his opponent there but he did get knocked-down and Williams is probably a bigger puncher than Kalajdzic.

At +137 draw no-bet I am taking Williams small.

 

[quincy k]

Williams and Browne are probably similar on a talent level. Williams' win over Edwin Rodriguez is the best of either man but Browne is undefeated.

Williams is a kill or be killed fighter, his chin is not great but he was able to stand and trade with a world-class fighter in Adonis Stevenson for three action-packed rounds before being ground down and stopped in the 4th.

Most people thought Browne was lucky to escape with a split decision win in his last fight against a Bosnian guy called Radivoje Kalajdzic. It is possible Browne underestimated his opponent there but he did get knocked-down and Williams is probably a bigger puncher than Kalajdzic.

At +137 draw no-bet I am taking Williams small.

im going to wait and live bet williams. browne has the superior skillset that could build him a lead in the first few rounds but has faded against the bosnian, white(who has been stopped four times) and in his only olympic fight where he took a standing eight count in the last round.

 

[Jae Gibbz]

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