Borz could've been champ for a long time

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He would've beaten Alex, Izzy & SS years ago. Its not like his skills have changed.

His pacing is better but thats about it. That wouldn't even matter against those guys.

Maybe Costa or Vettori would've given him more of a fight cuz theyre decent grapplers but thats it.

The Borz that fought tonight would only have trouble with these ATGs
Teh Chris, Luke, Jacare and maybe Silva (I could see him landing a knee like he did to Newton or Pele/Hughes)... oh yeah and maybe Kennedy too. I don't say Yoel cuz while Yoel was an insane Olympic wrestler he never used it in mma
 
It's horrendous that it's taken this long for him to get a title shot.
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You lost me at The Chris, Luke, Jacare and silva and especially Kennedy
They are all very good grapplers. They would not get dominated on the ground. Never have.

Kennedy did vs the guys I named. That being said he was a better wrestler than anyone Borz has faced from MW.

Usman is better but hes always WW
 
He made DDP look like a gourmet, Rhys McKee...
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The guy fights once a year and he doesn't really showcase a whole lot except some high level wrestling. Honestly, I don't like how this guy is supposed to be a wolf but is more like a walrus. I hope someone beats him in his next title defense which could be this time next year.
 
The guy fights once a year and he doesn't really showcase a whole lot except some high level wrestling. Honestly, I don't like how this guy is supposed to be a wolf but is more like a walrus. I hope someone beats him in his next title defense which could be this time next year.
I'm not a fan of how he fought today but no one is gonna beat him.

Fluffy and maybe Caio have a chance of making it interesting
 
I hope he defends and stops all the BS talk about 3 division champ. The BS about him not getting a title shot earlier is hilarious. He beat 1 ranked MW and got a title shot. He couldn't have done less to get a TS IMO. Look at how Arman got treated for fucking up a fight and compare to the treatment Khamzat is getting.
 
Khamzat declined a title fight before at UFC 300 Dana wanted him to headline that card but Chimaev declined saying it was to short time for him to make wait.

It was at welterweight against Leon
 
I hope he defends and stops all the BS talk about 3 division champ. The BS about him not getting a title shot earlier is hilarious. He beat 1 ranked MW and got a title shot. He couldn't have done less to get a TS IMO. Look at how Arman got treated for fucking up a fight and compare to the treatment Khamzat is getting.
Eh between everything he’s accomplished he deserved a title shot somewhere. It’s just murky because he was at 170 for awhile. Imavov would have been the other guy but let’s be real.
 
Eh between everything he’s accomplished he deserved a title shot somewhere. It’s just murky because he was at 170 for awhile. Imavov would have been the other guy but let’s be real.
Imavov would be the other guy? Am I missing something? Khamzat beat Whittaker and the next highest ranked MW was Meerschart. He never fought Imavov. 1 ranked MW win and got a title shot. Literally faster path to a title shot then even Covington.
 
Imavov would be the other guy? Am I missing something? Khamzat beat Whittaker and the next highest ranked MW was Meerschart. He never fought Imavov. 1 ranked MW win and got a title shot. Literally faster path to a title shot than even Covington.
I think *just* looking at his wins at middleweight is confirmation bias. Does beating Burns and Usman not count for anything? He’s obviously been jumping around divisions. RDR bout to get a title shot too for beating many of the same opponents (Whittaker, Meerschart and Holland).

Imavov would have been the other option for a title shot on Saturday. The UFC isn’t passing up a Chimaev title shot for Imavov of all people though.
 
I don't say Yoel cuz while Yoel was an insane Olympic wrestler he never used it in mma
He still has very good TDD and can scramble very well, with how dangerous and explosive he is I wouldn't count him out against Khamzat.
 
I think *just* looking at his wins at middleweight is confirmation bias. Does beating Burns and Usman not count for anything? He’s obviously been jumping around divisions. RDR bout to get a title shot too for beating many of the same opponents (Whittaker, Meerschart and Holland).

Imavov would have been the other option for a title shot on Saturday. The UFC isn’t passing up a Chimaev title shot for Imavov of all people though.

In terms of divisional rankings at a different weight class? No. Why should they count. Doesn't seem very fair or consistent in a ranking system
 
In terms of divisional rankings at a different weight class? No. Why should they count. Doesn't seem very fair or consistent in a ranking system
If RDR gets the title shot does a win over Bo Nickal count more than a win over Usman at 185? Because they have a fairly similar opponent history.

Khamzat has a fairly good resume at this point. I don’t think it’s crazy to consider that.
 
Khamzat declined a title fight before at UFC 300 Dana wanted him to headline that card but Chimaev declined saying it was to short time for him to make wait.

It was at welterweight against Leon

That was pure desparation and retardation from UFC's side. It was around a month notice and during Ramadan and after Khamzat just had previously missed weight bad at 170.

If Khamzat had accepted that we should've been pissed at him. We should be pissed at UFC for even thinking about it.
 
I hope he defends and stops all the BS talk about 3 division champ. The BS about him not getting a title shot earlier is hilarious. He beat 1 ranked MW and got a title shot. He couldn't have done less to get a TS IMO. Look at how Arman got treated for fucking up a fight and compare to the treatment Khamzat is getting.
If Khamzat even becomes a TWO-division champ I guarantee Paramount will be suing UFC for breach of contract. At some point an entertainment company has to at least PRETEND to be that. Not to mention live crowds will shrink to Apex levels.
 
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