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Bobby Green Vegan

Disagree. He was making a joke. "As vegan as possible" doesn't necessarily mean 100% vegan, just like doing as well as possible on a test doesn't mean getting 100%. It could mean getting 75%. In my opinion, Bobby, sorry, KING was making a little joke, which seems to be over a lot of people's heads on here.

Theres no such thing as a 75% vegan lol. Is that a joke? Must be.
Veganism = absolute abstinence from animal products.
 
Yeah Nate Diaz doesn't know what vegan means either. What they mean is vegetarian or pescatarian. But vegan is the more popular buzz word to use.
 
I feel like vegan has become such a trendy word the last 10 years that people have completely forgotten about the word vegetarian
Which is kind of dumb because vegetarian is the much easier diet for casuals to follow with all of the same health benefits. There's no real reason to go vegan other than trend following.
 
Which is kind of dumb because vegetarian is the much easier diet for casuals to follow with all of the same health benefits. There's no real reason to go vegan other than trend following.

ethics is a big part of it. alot of people don't like how animals are being treated / fed a processed diet / pumped full of hormones to grow faster / antibiotics.

the vegan stuff i've tried is about the same as the real thing. oat milk, mushroom steak, cashew cheese, beyond burger, vegan sushi, etc. they even have a vegan egg now.

the only thing i haven't gotten right yet is pizza. the cooked cheese just isn't the same
 
ethics is a big part of it. alot of people don't like how animals are being treated / fed a processed diet / pumped full of hormones to grow faster / antibiotics.

the vegan stuff i've tried is about the same as the real thing. oat milk, mushroom steak, cashew cheese, beyond burger, vegan sushi, etc. they even have a vegan egg now.

the only thing i haven't gotten right yet is pizza. the cooked cheese just isn't the same
I never understood the point of trying to make Vegan food into something its not and can never be like a Steak or a Burger.. seriously why is that done and I'm not talking mess but curious.
 
ethics is a big part of it. alot of people don't like how animals are being treated / fed a processed diet / pumped full of hormones to grow faster / antibiotics.
Then just avoid factory farming. Don't need to become a vegan for that. A lot of the ethics is performative and selective. Many so called vegans will own cats and dogs, or wear wool and silk, have down blankets, etc.

the vegan stuff i've tried is about the same as the real thing. oat milk, mushroom steak, cashew cheese, beyond burger, vegan sushi, etc. they even have a vegan egg now.

the only thing i haven't gotten right yet is pizza. the cooked cheese just isn't the same
The beyond stuff is decent, way better than the options back in the day. But as a meat eater, no, it's not the same. It's also arguably worse for you health wise.
 
I never understood the point of trying to make Vegan food into something its not and can never be like a Steak or a Burger.. seriously why is that done and I'm not talking mess but curious.
I ate meat for 31 years, then became a vegetarian. I think meat is delicious, I don't have any issue with the taste or texture, so I appreciate that I can still have something resembling a burger or chicken strips, etc.
You have to consider that pretty much every vegan/vegetarian ate meat for a long time, and probably really liked it.
 
Seems many need a definition, this is the one I go by..
"Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable—all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose; and by extension, promotes the development and use of animal-free alternatives for the benefit of animals, humans and the environment. In dietary terms it denotes the practice of dispensing with all products derived wholly or partly from animals."
 
I ate meat for 31 years, then became a vegetarian. I think meat is delicious, I don't have any issue with the taste or texture, so I appreciate that I can still have something resembling a burger or chicken strips, etc.
You have to consider that pretty much every vegan/vegetarian ate meat for a long time, and probably really liked it.
Thank You for the answer I just always wondered that.
 
Then just avoid factory farming. Don't need to become a vegan for that. A lot of the ethics is performative and selective. Many so called vegans will own cats and dogs, or wear wool and silk, have down blankets, etc.
Or sticking to only eating game food like deer, elk, moose etc could be another option if you still want to consume meat that's killed in a ethically manner and fed a natural diet.
 
I never understood the point of trying to make Vegan food into something its not and can never be like a Steak or a Burger.. seriously why is that done and I'm not talking mess but curious.
It's done to mostly appeal to new Vegans, who may or may not be struggling finding easy alternatives to food they used to love. People don't go Vegan because they stop enjoying the taste of Animal based products.
 
Then just avoid factory farming. Don't need to become a vegan for that. A lot of the ethics is performative and selective. Many so called vegans will own cats and dogs, or wear wool and silk, have down blankets, etc.


The beyond stuff is decent, way better than the options back in the day. But as a meat eater, no, it's not the same. It's also arguably worse for you health wise.

i agree. many vegans drive cars with leather. if you can get all your meat from a high quality source then its fine. although red meat still has links to colon cancer and inflammation. i try to avoid that as much as possible along with dairy which has no nutrition benefits and extra saturated fats / bad cholesterol. if i do consume animal products its usually just fish.
 
Then just avoid factory farming. Don't need to become a vegan for that. A lot of the ethics is performative and selective. Many so called vegans will own cats and dogs, or wear wool and silk, have down blankets, etc.


The beyond stuff is decent, way better than the options back in the day. But as a meat eater, no, it's not the same. It's also arguably worse for you health wise.
Factory farming is not even close to the extent of Animal harm used for unnecessary reasons, it can be considered cruel to simply Use a sentient being for your personal gain.

Rescuing Cats and Dogs and wearing 2nd hand non-Vegan material are neither necessarily contradicting Veganism, though there are good discussions to be had or watched on the details for new Vegans who aren't sure, or people who are just interested .
 
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