Bob Sapp interview after retirement, says he got 10 million in the bank.

Skarr said:
Im not sure what one thing necessarily has to do with the other

ofc I hope things continue to grow and get better for the athletes ....I hope youre not suggesting the way for that to happen is by the athletes taking dives to earn extra bucks....because that would just be flat out wrong lol
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I'm not suggesting that. I'm just saying fighters should look after their own interests.

Like Sapp was saying, if he gets cut on one of those regional shows, he has to pay a plastic surgeon to fix him up. That money comes out of his own pocket. What if he tears his ACL or something, do you think some promotion in Albania is going to pay for his surgery?

He is brought in those shows to lose to a home town favorite. He's not going to make a run and win the UFC title, so he doesn't have that big of a reason to go for the win. If he gets a cut, takes damage, why take more damage in winning a fight that does nothing for him.

Sapp knew his limits, knew that he wasn't a great fighter. He was just in it for the money. Let the guy make his money.

It's the promoters fault that booked him. But they did so because they could make money of his name. So, everyone wins. Sapp gets his money by not taking too much damage and taking a dive. The promoter get to sell tickets off of Sapp's name. Home town crowd watches as their guy smashes Sapp.

Sapp was just looking after his own interests. Look at Lucas Martins. Dude was coming off a win in the UFC and still got cut. Jon Maden was 4-1 in the UFC and got cut. The promoters don't care about fighters that can't make them money. It's a business of interests. Sure you can fight for honor and have integrity, but when you're 40 and need to get both hips replaced and are in pain, guess what? Honor isn't going to cover that bill. You can only tap yourself on the back and say you had integrity, if that's worth anything to you, but you'll still have to pay for your child's college somehow.
 
Blame JMMA for creating the circus freak market that he appealed to.
 
Namek said:
I'm not suggesting that. I'm just saying fighters should look after their own interests.

Like Sapp was saying, if he gets cut on one of those regional shows, he has to pay a plastic surgeon to fix him up. That money comes out of his own pocket. What if he tears his ACL or something, do you think some promotion in Albania is going to pay for his surgery?

He is brought in those shows to lose to a home town favorite. He's not going to make a run and win the UFC title, so he doesn't have that big of a reason to go for the win. If he gets a cut, takes damage, why take more damage in winning a fight that does nothing for him.

Sapp knew his limits, knew that he wasn't a great fighter. He was just in it for the money. Let the guy make his money.

It's the promoters fault that booked him. But they did so because they could make money of his name. So, everyone wins. Sapp gets his money by not taking too much damage and taking a dive. The promoter get to sell tickets off of Sapp's name. Home town crowd watches as their guy smashes Sapp.

Sapp was just looking after his own interests. Look at Lucas Martins. Dude was coming off a win in the UFC and still got cut. Jon Maden was 4-1 in the UFC and got cut. The promoters don't care about fighters that can't make them money. It's a business of interests. Sure you can fight for honor and have integrity, but when you're 40 and need to get both hips replaced and are in pain, guess what? Honor isn't going to cover that bill. You can only tap yourself on the back and say you had integrity, if that's worth anything to you, but you'll still have to pay for your child's college somehow.
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sorry man but youre using alot of words to say that its ok to take dives in sports so long as its in your best intrest....well where does that stop? should fighters accept cash from the mafia etc to dive in the 5th then because its in their best intrest? should Tom Brady accept payment to make sure his team doesnt win the superbowl because its more profitable for him and his family to do so?

the answer is no...yeah you need to look out for your intrests but if you cant do a thing with even the slightest bit of integrity((and make no mistake...any sports player that is willing to take a fall is a terrible thing for that sport))then just straight out....do something else...you raise yourself up...but not at the cost of other people otherwise you need to find a different route to get that lift

what Sapp did is no different than being paid off by someone putting betting money down against him, that completely hurts the legitimacy of the sport....how many people lost intrest in boxing because of shady shit like fixed fights etc? I know I did
 
He won't have $10,000,000 once Big Nog takes him to court for attempted murder.

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Came here expecting the usual Sapp interview (Pro Wrestling persona, evil laugh, etc.). Was suprised at how intelligent and articulate Sapp really is.
 
skylolow said:
No doubt he has bank. For a few years he was and still to some degree a pretty big cultural figure in Japan. The guy did a ton of commercials
and appearances through out south east asia part of the world.
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I remember seeing him on billboards all over Tokyo back in the day lol
 
Namek said:
It's not like this sport treats fighters great. Look at Sean Sherk, former UFC champ, had two hip replacements before he was 40, and now works construction with his own company. Wow, that's the life of a former UFC champion.
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Bob Sapp comes across here as extremely intelligent, and extremely innovative, purely from his delivery alone, let alone from his accomplishments, I'm very impressed, as I've never seen him interviewed before.
 
Skarr said:
sorry man but youre using alot of words to say that its ok to take dives in sports so long as its in your best intrest....well where does that stop? should fighters accept cash from the mafia etc to dive in the 5th then because its in their best intrest? should Tom Brady accept payment to make sure his team doesnt win the superbowl because its more profitable for him and his family to do so?

the answer is no...yeah you need to look out for your intrests but if you cant do a thing with even the slightest bit of integrity((and make no mistake...any sports player that is willing to take a fall is a terrible thing for that sport))then just straight out....do something else...you raise yourself up...but not at the cost of other people otherwise you need to find a different route to get that lift

what Sapp did is no different than being paid off by someone putting betting money down against him, that completely hurts the legitimacy of the sport....how many people lost intrest in boxing because of shady shit like fixed fights etc? I know I did
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Look, why should fighters show integrity and care about the legitimacy of a sport that doesn't care about them?

Tom Brady get's paid a shitload. When Sapp got paid a lot of money and was taken care off, he fought to the best of his ability. No one ever said he phoned it in against Big Nog, Hoost, Cro Cop etc.

BUT... when a promoter doesn't provide basic work conditions, like health insurance, why should a fighter give it his all, when his interests aren't looked after? They are risking their lives at the end of the day, this isn't basketball. The reasons a ton of boxer used to and still take dives in boxing is because boxers get head trauma and they get paid shit for it. So, they have to live off something. I'm not for taking dives. But when this kind of thing (fighting) becomes your life and is the main avenue where you can make money, well, if you're not taken care off, I can forgive it. The sport sure as hell doesn't look after these guys, the promoters don't care about them either, so why should the fighters give a shit about both (promoters and sport)?

Bob Sapp was brought in as a name and attraction to these shows. He was there to sell tickets. He was not there for his fighting ability. If he sold tickets he did his job. Yeah, it would be a lot more decent to put up a fight instead of tapping out once someone hits you, but with Sapp a simple google search would have told everyone what they were going to get. Considering his interests weren't taken care off, the guy was doing what was best for him. If it didn't become obvious after the first 2-3 fights what he was doing, then that's on the promoters that hired him. And, a lot did. So, it stands to reason that they thought they could earn some money off him.

I'm not for taking dives in general, but in Sapp's case, I can understand what he was doing and I don't put the blame on him but on the people that kept booking him.
 
Namek said:
Look, why should fighters show integrity and care about the legitimacy of a sport that doesn't care about them?

Tom Brady get's paid a shitload. When Sapp got paid a lot of money and was taken care off, he fought to the best of his ability. No one ever said he phoned it in against Big Nog, Hoost, Cro Cop etc.

BUT... when a promoter doesn't provide basic work conditions, like health insurance, why should a fighter give it his all, when his interests aren't looked after? They are risking their lives at the end of the day, this isn't basketball. The reasons a ton of boxer used to and still take dives in boxing is because boxers get head trauma and they get paid shit for it. So, they have to live off something. I'm not for taking dives. But when this kind of thing (fighting) becomes your life and is the main avenue where you can make money, well, if you're not taken care off, I can forgive it. The sport sure as hell doesn't look after these guys, the promoters don't care about them either, so why should the fighters give a shit about both (promoters and sport)?

Bob Sapp was brought in as a name and attraction to these shows. He was there to sell tickets. He was not there for his fighting ability. If he sold tickets he did his job. Yeah, it would be a lot more decent to put up a fight instead of tapping out once someone hits you, but with Sapp a simple google search would have told everyone what they were going to get. Considering his interests weren't taken care off, the guy was doing what was best for him. If it didn't become obvious after the first 2-3 fights what he was doing, then that's on the promoters that hired him. And, a lot did. So, it stands to reason that they thought they could earn some money off him.

I'm not for taking dives in general, but in Sapp's case, I can understand what he was doing and I don't put the blame on him but on the people that kept booking him.
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why should fighters show integrity to the sport...because they chose to be a fighter....no one put a gun to their head and told that they could only ever do that in life....they chose that path ...thats what it is....the moment people are ok with fighters taking dives ....well then its full on become wwe...is that what you want? fake fights?, there is a ton of other things Bob Sapp can do....and has done obviously...if what he says is true he is sitting on 10 mil...did he make that from fighting????????

no he didnt...so why are you advocating fighters to take dives??
"well bob sapp got paid shit and he has to pay his medical bills" hahahahahahahahah hes sitting on 10million((According to him)) but you expect me to feel sympathic towards him throwing fights....not happening, you want me to believe that him throwing fights is the only way he could pay his and his kids way and his medical bills...yeah right...it was the only way he could make a living...but hes sitting on 10mil that didnt ((entirely)) come from fighting....lol
 
10 million is a lot of money for a fighter.. wow, he did well for him self.
 
Namek said:
Look at Sean Sherk, former UFC champ, had two hip replacements before he was 40, and now works construction with his own company. Wow, that's the life of a former UFC champion.
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I like how you twisted being a real estate investor into being a construction worker.
 
Skarr said:
why should fighters show integrity to the sport...because they chose to be a fighter....no one put a gun to their head and told that they could only ever do that in life....they chose that path ...thats what it is....the moment people are ok with fighters taking dives ....well then its full on become wwe...is that what you want? fake fights?, there is a ton of other things Bob Sapp can do....and has done obviously...if what he says is true he is sitting on 10 mil...did he make that from fighting????????

no he didnt...so why are you advocating fighters to take dives??
"well bob sapp got paid shit and he has to pay his medical bills" hahahahahahahahah hes sitting on 10million((According to him)) but you expect me to feel sympathic towards him throwing fights....not happening, you want me to believe that him throwing fights is the only way he could pay his and his kids way and his medical bills...yeah right...it was the only way he could make a living...but hes sitting on 10mil that didnt ((entirely)) come from fighting....lol
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First off, I'm not advocating anything. I'm saying I understand his reasoning for doing what he did. I might do the same thing in his position. I'm not advocating fighters take dives in general, but in some circumstances, I can understand why they would and I choose not to judge them. This is a very dangerous sport, you should watch your back.

And, just because you do something, doesn't mean you have to show integrity toward your craft, if your craft treats you like shit. If your sport is taking advantage of you, you should take advantage of your sport. You think promoters have the fighter's best interest at heart? Look up and see what Dave Meltzer thinks the UFC allocates for fighter pay of their full revenue and then go compare that to the NBA. This is the real world, not a time of knights and codes of honor.

In the case about Sapp's medical bills. It is not Sapp's responsibilities to cover his medical expenses, no matter how much money he has, it's the job of the promoter. If Sapp get injured in a fight, he'll not only lose money of medical bills but on the other business opportunities like movie roles, commercials etc. At the end of the day if Sapp goes into a fight and he feels like he's not being taken care off, I don't see why he shouldn't look out for his interest. The promoters that hired him know who they are hiring. They know what he'll do. So, in Sapp's case, I'm fine with what he did, because he wasn't hired to fight, he was hired to show up and be an attraction. Which is what Sapp is, an attraction. The fact that he did his "dive" routine for like 3 years shows that promoters were fine with what he did, because he moved tickets to some degree.

So in the case of Bob Sapp taking dives, yeah, I'm fine with it. No matter what you think about it, at the end of the day, Bob has money in the bank and didn't suffer a ton of head trauma, so he won.

mjmj said:
I like how you twisted being a real estate investor into being a construction worker.
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Well, according to Sherk, he works 12 hour days driving around material and working on houses with two other friends in "his company". I guess that must be the glamorous life of a real estate investor.
 
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Namek said:
Well, according to Sherk, he works 12 hour days driving around material and working on houses with two other friends in "his company". I guess that must be the glamorous life of a real estate investor.
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No one said the life of a real estate investor was "glamorous". Yes, there's a lot of driving around and even some work involved.
 
mjmj said:
No one said the life of a real estate investor was "glamorous". Yes, there's a lot of driving around and even some work involved.
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So, if he drives around material and works construction 12 hours a day (according to him), fixing up houses he later flips, how was what I said misleading?
 
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