Bo Nickal had quitter Vibes

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His vibe was like super chill, middle class white guy type of vibe. like, he does sports because he likes to compete and have fun. Grill meats on the weekend and take the boat out with the bros type vibe.

you can't live like this and have the heart of a real fighter

A guy like Jean Silva isn't fighting for fun, he is fighting because it is life or death for him. If he wasn't fighting he would probably be in jail for murder. this is the vibe of a real fighter.
 
His vibe was like super chill, middle class white guy type of vibe. like, he does sports because he likes to compete and have fun. Grill meats on the weekend and take the boat out with the bros type vibe.

you can't live like this and have the heart of a real fighter

A guy like Jean Silva isn't fighting for fun, he is fighting because it is life or death for him. If he wasn't fighting he would probably be in jail for murder. this is the vibe of a real fighter.

Yeah but it's not due to your socioeconomic class bro, it's just how certain people are built down deep. Arman and Penn are rich kids and you can't say they aren't tough (Penn you could say lazy, but definitely can't say not tough). Chris Weidman is some regular white guy like you described Bo and he's too tough for his own good.
 
Yeah when he sat down his body language was piss poor. Shoulders slumped, looking down, frowning.....horrible.
 
It looked like after the first round when he didn't have takedowns as an option he mentally broke. I'm sure that knee hurt but it looked like he was looking for a way out and found it.
 
Yeah but it's not due to your socioeconomic class bro, it's just how certain people are built down deep. Arman and Penn are rich kids and you can't say they aren't tough (Penn you could say lazy, but definitely can't say not tough). Chris Weidman is some regular white guy like you described Bo and he's too tough for his own good.

maybe you can find a few outliers but socioeconomic class + chill vibe are not ingredients for a good fighter.

Arman, Penn, and Weidman are different.

Arman is from a mafia family, and BJ has the crazy vibe. I can't see Bo Nical being drunk and getting knocked out by a fat guy in a parking lot. Chris Weidman was brutalized by his brother growing up.
 
I think those shots leading up to the knee he was stunned. I won't call it just quitting or anything.

Bo probably has learned his lesson on coming in that heavy before a fight also.

Overall, a good learning experience for a guy like Bo.
 
I just don't think any single part of the fight went the way he wanted. I certainly don't think he liked RDR's top pressure in the latter part of round 1, and I think he broke mentally. Between rounds you can see on his stool that he's looking lost.

RDR did exactly what he needed to and just piled on the pressure, and those knees....
 
As soon as he announced he was expecting a child with his partner, it was over.

Father time remains undefeated.
 
Bo gave me Lesnar vibes during his RDR fight. It's obvious he's uncomfortable getting hit. When he got stung with those knees, which admittedly suck to get hit in the gut, the grimace on his face told me all I needed to know: Bo isn't built for this. I don't hate him but the UFC did him a grave disservice giving Bo these questionable slots on high-profile PPVs. You can't put squash matches on PPVs. When you see opposition like Jaime Pickett and Val Woodburn on these PPV main cards you knew this was going to fail.

Bo needs to fight more on apex cards. He can't be fighting once/twice a year so early into his career. I expect Pimblett to have a similar exposure once he gets that real test.
 
Charles is the only fighter to really turn it all around from his "quitting" losses early on. But Charles was 20, 22 23 then.
Bo is already halfway through his prime and obviously not nearly as skilled as Oliveira

Charles quitting is grossly exaggerated

Part of it came from a fight where he tore his esophagus and literally his life was in danger

As he filled out his frame he became very durable.

Most guys aren't fighting elite UFC guys from age 20.
Oliveira had to learn on the job and did it at a very very high level, fighting guys like Pettis, Holloway, Jim Miller, Frankie Edgar and Cowboy. Dude jumped straight into the shark tank

Most guys go thru those fighter "life lessons" in a regional org, and you can GET AWAY with an off night at that level. Charles was facing superstars and Killers pretty much from the jump in his UFC career. Cub Swanson, Jeremy Stephen's, Brookins even Darren Elkin, that's a tough run not to mention the occasion champ/challenger tier guys he got thrown in with even early on
 
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