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Media Bo Nickal Discusses Dagestani Wrestling

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Cliffs.

Appreciates their work effort.
Appreciates their discipline and structured approach.
Feels they are of similar mindsets personally and at Penn State.
They are all in and focused on their goals.
Looks forward to competing against them and wants to be a part of the wave that challenges them.
 
Genuine question here....why is the world getting excited about guy with 28-10 freestyle wrestling record?

Folkstyle with its top control and overall emphasis on control oriented moves is well suited for MMA.

Also his losses since 2019 were to J'Den Cox, David Taylor, Gabe Dean, and a dude who was busted for PEDs. He is top of the food chain but at a world level the tip top is all that matters. In MMA he doesn't need to be the single best freestyle wrestler of all time to have a great impact.

Further remember when you see grapplers, like Khabib, control guys after the take down that has zero to do with Freestyle.
 
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Folkstyle with its top control and overall emphasis on control oriented moves is well suited for MMA.

Also his losses since 2019 were to J'Den Cox, David Taylor, Gabe Dean, and a dude who was busted for PEDs. He is top of the food chain but at a world level the tip top is all that matters. In MMA he doesn't need to be the single best freestyle wrestler of all time to have a great impact.

Wasn't Ben Askren some "folkstyle" wizard too? Only worked to a certain level.

Is folkstyle what got him that crazy record at college level re: Nickal?
 
Wasn't Ben Askren some "folkstyle" wizard too? Only worked to a certain level.

Is folkstyle what got him that crazy record at college level re: Nickal?

Bo is far better athlete than Ben ever was and Ben was really busted up by the time he got to the UFC. Ben was a ridiculously good folkstyle wrestler though, you are correct. I'm not sure Ben was a good enough athlete to ever set the world on fire within MMA. I think Bo might be.

Yes college is folkstyle.
 
Who would you say had a better wrestling career, Johny Hendricks or Bo?

I'm not sure it matters. Hendricks fell in love with his left hand and for the most part was too lazy to wrestle. Bo understands his strength and is definitely not lazy.
 
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He's 3-0 in MMA and hasn't fought in the big leagues. I appreciate the fact that many people think he's a legit prospect, but as of right now, he's untested in MMA, and so I'm not sure why he gets so much media coverage.

It's one thing if every prospect got airtime / exposure from UFC (and the media who seems beholden to them). But UFC seems to follow a pattern where they hope to catch lightning in a bottle and so they pick a dude they like (Greg Hardy, Sage Northcutt, Paddy, Till, now Rosas) and keep giving them the spotlight despite repeated underwhelming performances. When they finally wash out of the UFC, Dana & Co just move on to the next thing.

The reason this is a problem is two-fold:
1) It comes at the expense of legit prospects/contenders who don't get the exposure they have earned, resulting in them being virtually unknown to the casual fan, which in turn costs them title shots, and keeps them unknown in the prime of their careers.
2) Hoping to catch lighting in a bottle is an outdated way of doing talent scouting - it's like the old baseball scouts saying "I have a hunch about this guy" instead of actually using metrics, considering strength of schedule, etc.
 
He's 3-0 in MMA and hasn't fought in the big leagues. I appreciate the fact that many people think he's a legit prospect, but as of right now, he's untested in MMA, and so I'm not sure why he gets so much media coverage.

It's one thing if every prospect got airtime / exposure from UFC (and the media who seems beholden to them). But UFC seems to follow a pattern where they hope to catch lightning in a bottle and so they pick a dude they like (Greg Hardy, Sage Northcutt, Paddy, Till, now Rosas) and keep giving them the spotlight despite repeated underwhelming performances. When they finally wash out of the UFC, Dana & Co just move on to the next thing.

The reason this is a problem is two-fold:
1) It comes at the expense of legit prospects/contenders who don't get the exposure they have earned, resulting in them being virtually unknown to the casual fan, which in turn costs them title shots, and keeps them unknown in the prime of their careers.
2) Hoping to catch lighting in a bottle is an outdated way of doing talent scouting - it's like the old baseball scouts saying "I have a hunch about this guy" instead of actually using metrics, considering strength of schedule, etc.

It’s pretty obvious, no?
 
No good Dagestani style fighter at middleweight tho.
 
Genuine question here....why is the world getting excited about guy with 28-10 freestyle wrestling record?
Because amateur wrestling records are often not that relevant for MMA. If his skills (particularly TDs and top control) translate well to MMA, and he's able to cross-train and effectively add striking, transitions and submissions/sub-defense to his game, that's all that matters.

His amateur background is a lot more impressive than Jon Jones or GSP, two of the most effective MMA wrestlers ever in their primes.
 
I'm not sure it matters. Hendricks fell in love with his left hand and for the most part was too lazy to wrestle. Bo understands his strength and is definitely not lazy.
Hendricks was too lazy to wrestle much and Gaethje is even worse. Yet both of them had better careers (belt for Hendricks, two title shots for Gaethje) than Askren and other wrestling purists. The bottom line: wrestling is a tool in your belt...it may or may not be the primary skill you use in MMA.
 
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