Blood Feud: Wanderlei vs Rampage!

[HHJ]

Lets look at this shit. 2003 buddeh!
There has been alot of buzz about this fight,and after Page defeated Kevin Randleman,the two confronted each other in the ring and had to be seperated.

First Fight: November 9, 2003



The two men fought in the finals of the LHW tourney. Rampage dispatched Chuck Liddel byt TKO and Wanderlei defeated Yoshida via decision,then they faced off w each other.

Result: Page goes a TD,Wand wraps him in a guillotine. They end up on the ground and Page is in Wand's guard but only doing minimal damage. Fight is stood back up. Rampage just did not have an answer for the Thai clinch and took way too much damage. Probably tired from first fight.

TKO for Wanderlei Silva @ 6:28 of R1

Second Fight: October 31, 2004



Since their first fight Page defeated Minowa and Arona,Wanderlei defeating Minowa (poor bastard) and Yuki Kondo. After the Kondo fight,the two had a face off. Rampage looks fat two months before their scheduled bout.Page also finds religion somehow in the period between this meeting and the fight and apparently fasts before the fight.

Result: Wanderlei hyper aggressive in the beggining of the bout,hurts page,but page is able to take the fight to the ground,and much of the rest of the round is spent in Wanderlei's guard but Wanderlei is able to defend well,and Page does not do much damage. Eventually the fight gets back on the feet,and Page drops Wanderlei and tries to land knees,but the round ends. Wanderlei walks back to the corner looking ok. Round 2 Page is visibly tired,Wanderlei hanging back and throwing leg kicks,and Wanderlei shatters his nose with a big right hand and then successfully kills Rampage with knees like the first fight,but this time page sails through the ropes.

KO for Wanderlei Silva @ 3:26 of round 2

Third Fight: December 27, 2008



Both fighters are in the UFC,and are somewhat diminished at this point. Wanderlei just not the same after suffering back to back KO's to Mirko Crocop and Dan Henderson. Rampage just off his title loss to Forrest Griffin. Wanderlei had come to the UFC and lost to Chuck Lidell,but bounced back with a quick KO win over Keith Jardine.

Result: Wanderlei was having success with leg kicks from range,but when trying to close in with a berserker charge,Page shells up and lands an almost identical hook as the one he ko'd Lidell with,but with the left this time.

KO for Rampage Jackson @ 3:21 of round 1

Fourth Fight: September 29, 2018



10 years since their third fight,both fighters probably should have been retired by this point. When in their primes,both fighters looked to be around the same size,but here they fought at HW. Wanderlei weighed in at 226 lbs and Rampage came in at a whopping 254 lbs.Also Wanderlei's chin is shot,and Page's is still holding up.

Result: Both guys are slow. Wanderlei is faster and in better shape. Lands good hits on page,but just doesnt have the same snap in his punches. Page seems to just waiting and clinching. In the 2nd things get fun as the two bite down on the mouthpieces and just start rock and sockem robots on each other.
Suddenly Page lands a combination that stuns Wanderlei. Wanderlei's punching coming much slower,and Page got Wanderlei's timing down and drops him and finished with GNP. Despite this Wanderlei was thankfully not hurt that bad. A break from the total violence of the other three endings.

TKO for Rampage Jackson @ 4:32 of round 2


Summary: Wanderlei won when it mattered,but with age,Page still retained chin and punching power. After the fourth fight,the two guys embraced after it was over and Wanderlei joked that they should fight a 5th fight.


I just wanted to take a trip down memory lane with these two legends,and provide context for those who might not have been around back then. GOAT Rivalry

 

[BlessYourHeart]

Wandy may have the tie breaker but they were all exciting fights. Rampage never backed away

 

[HHJ]

Wandy may have the tie breaker but they were all exciting fights. Rampage never backed away

These guys made each other alot of money.

 

[BlessYourHeart]

These guys made each other alot of money.

And a fan following

 

[DaleBoca]

Now Rampage is Titties!!!!

 

[HHJ]

Now Rampage is Titties!!!!

ahahah yeah all that time he made fun of that guy and now look at him

 

[DaleBoca]

ahahah yeah all that time he made fun of that guy and now look at him

That was great TUF. Rampage was hilarious as hell. His gifs from that season are still used around these parts.

 

[HHJ]

That was great TUF. Rampage was hilarious as hell. His gifs from that season are still used around these parts.

Yes it was def entertaining banter between coaches.

 

[TCE]

Timestamped for new viewers.

Wand's title reign and rivalry with Rampage in PRIDE.



Part 2 of the rivalry at the beginning.

 

[DaleBoca]

Yes it was def entertaining banter between coaches.

 

[HHJ]

 

[Substance Abuse]

Gonna have to move this old ass thread to the Lightweights...

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Kidding.

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[HHJ]

Gonna have to move this old ass thread to the Lightweights...

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Kidding.

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[kingmob6]

ahahah yeah all that time he made fun of that guy and now look at him

he is not fat right now, he back in shape though....have some hespect for the legend.

 

[HHJ]

UPDATED WITH LINKS TO ALL 4 FIGHTS

 

[HHJ]

he is not fat right now, he back in shape though....have some hespect for the legend.

I do respect him,but fat is fat.

 

[Deleted member 110072]

Ironically against Fedor I don't think the fat made much difference, relatively slow paced fight that was over fast.

Summary: Wanderlei won when it mattered,but with age,Page still retained chin and punching power.

I suspect Silva moving up to HW was part of the reason for decline, Rampage fighting Hunt and especially a prime Crocop might not have been pretty.

 

[HHJ]

I suspect Silva moving up to HW was part of the reason for decline, Rampage fighting Hunt and especially a prime Crocop might not have been pretty.

I dont think him moving up did by itself did that much. I think it had more to do with the two bad KO's back to back. He should have taken some time off after the Mirko Ko. He was back in there w Henderson like 6 months later.

 

[Deleted member 110072]

I dont think him moving up did by itself did that much. I think it had more to do with the two bad KO's back to back. He should have taken some time off after the Mirko Ko. He was back in there w Henderson like 6 months later.

The Hunt fight to me did seem to mark the first signs of decline, Silva in 2005 looked less convincing than the previous year and then Crocop probably clearly had a massive effect, Wanderlei did come back mentally by the Jardine fight but by that point physically he was not at the same level.

Really I think Wand kind of knew he was done as the best of the best by that point and played up the Axe Murderer style were as during his prime he could actually be quite cagey fighting smart and only going crazy when needed. Worked pretty well career wise as he did become a fan favourite in the UFC as well and remained in big fights for years but likely pushed his decline even further to the degree he was obviously shot in his post UFC comeback.

 

[HHJ]

The Hunt fight to me did seem to mark the first signs of decline, Silva in 2005 looked less convincing than the previous year and then Crocop probably clearly had a massive effect, Wanderlei did come back mentally by the Jardine fight but by that point physically he was not at the same level.

Really I think Wand kind of knew he was done as the best of the best by that point and played up the Axe Murderer style were as during his prime he could actually be quite cagey fighting smart and only going crazy when needed. Worked pretty well career wise as he did become a fan favourite in the UFC as well and remained in big fights for years.

He knew how to fall back and throw leg kicks from range