BLM protestors struck by car during freeway protest in Seattle

[LangfordBarrow]

I had this conversation with a buddy of mine after a lady killed two people by stopping in the middle lane if a highway to herd a family of ducks across. My buddies position was that the dead had nobody bro blame but themselves.

Until a few years later when he almost wiped his bike out while trying to avoid something on the highway. People drive while tired and sometimes the brain takes a split second too long to process something unusual and completely out of place. Such as pedestrians in the middle of a damned highway. Playing Frogger is best left to Atari, not real life.

It was definitely an unfortunate accident but driving a car is a responsibility just like owning a gun is. You can't go out pointing your gun at people and you can't go out speeding in a reckless manner.

 

[Bald1]

When you're behind the wheel you bear a certain level of responsibility as this guy will find out .

For sure.

Would you protest in the middle of a highway at 1:30 am?

That's an exercise in futility. You're largely preaching to the choir as well as gambling with your life.

 

[Strychnine]

Swing and a miss, race-baiter.

 

[LangfordBarrow]

Dispatchers are not authorities. And even if they were, the dispatcher told Zim that Zim didn't need to follow TM -- he didn't tell Zim not to follow TM.

It seems to me leftists are afraid to commit to saying people have an obligation to allow non-state actors to detain them, just as they're afraid to commit to saying a person has moral authority to cause severe bodily harm to someone who follows him/her. This way they can decide on a case by case basis depending on the tribes of the actors while feigning moral superiority.

It looks to me like you're very partisan.

 

[Strychnine]

You're a really weird guy.

According to your standards?

 

[Strychnine]

So you don't even know the race of the driver then.

See my later post...

 

[Lead]

I think it’s still on topic to say I’m going to get extremely drunk this New Years. This year can completely go screw itself.

 

[JimmyFresno]

The driver is a black dude. Imagine if it was a white guy. “White Supremacist”

*Like*

"Trump supporter."

 

[Codpiece]

I think your other post on this was better. It is absolutely possible that the driver didn’t process everything in the short time he had, and didn’t see the pedestrians as a result. But that’s why his first reaction should have been to *slow down* so he didn’t have to (as you put it) Mission Impossible the blockage.

From watching the vid I see plenty of negligence, but no reason so assume any malice.

 

[LangfordBarrow]

Which is why I say it's pretty sketchy. His behaviour doesn't look right.

But then again look at it from the other side. You'd have to be a pretty big idiot to try and blockade a highway at 1:30am for a bullshit protest.

But then again look at it from the other side...

 

[oldshadow]

If the road was blocked off by the police and the driver went around then its his fault if not then fuxk anyone blocking the road.

 

[Barteh]

But then again look at it from the other side...

I would never take an outspoken stance on an unclear situation where very little information is available. More people should think like this.

 

[Bald1]

It was definitely an unfortunate accident but driving a car is a responsibility just like owning a gun is. You can't go out pointing your gun at people and you can't go out speeding in a reckless manner.

Absolutely. And in the story I mentioned part of her responsibility as a motorist is pulling off the side of the road. We're going off topic here, yet most of us seem to be in agreement in a few points -

Don't hang out in the middle of a highway.
Don't count on pacifism of the mob.
Don't take aim and try to run people over unprovoked.

In my mind your safety is your responsibility first and foremost, and that covers not putting yourself in dangerous situations needlessly. But then my "needless" is different than others, obviously.

 

[lifelessheap]

The charitable interpretation when you see a mob of people blocking the street is that they are protesting rather than trying to carjack people.

Roads are for cars. Roads are for travel. They are not for protesting. In my old town the Tea Party wanted to hold a rally at the downtown park. They were denied a permit because it might make traffic too difficult. lmao

 

[LangfordBarrow]

I’ve hit more than one deer during high school. I know all that but that’s something jumping out at you. I wouldn’t equate them for that reason.

If he was running from cops, I’d think he’d assumed it was a road block and was trying to continue an escape. If we are going down that route, this is assuming he messed up a few steps back. Like we are possibly talking about him evading cops, entering an exit, and then this situation which is a whole lot worse than any of the example we are listing. If this was protests starting and this car was just coming down the road and was blindsided, we have a decent conversation here about a reaction that id still think he was reckless but at least would think he didn’t put himself in that situation nearly as much as it sounds like at the moment.

The Arbery case might actually be apt if this guy was running from the Police. By being in the commission of a felony any charges might get upgraded. Assuming it's a felony to evade the police. I'm not really a lawyer I just stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

 

[LangfordBarrow]

This has even more weight coming from a veteran of the 401. I've seen a trailer lose a tire and semis hit big ass traffic cones. If you're not on your A game then life's gonna suck. Too many variables to assume all accidents can be avoided.

Maybe human error being the top one?

 

[LangfordBarrow]

I've no idea what they are trying to achieve with a highway protest at 1:30 AM.

My bet is they were toking on some spliffs and laughing at sticking it to the man.

 

[My Spot]

See my later post...

Still watching MSNBC.

 

[LangfordBarrow]

I don’t know what his stance on blocking highways is but I think people should just be removed/ arrested when they do something that dangerous. I don’t think that excuses this guy if he entered the highway through at exit and choose to dodge a barrier. Seems like there are still details missing here but if the backstory of how he got there is true, he messed up in at least a a few ways before getting to that clip.

 

[Bald1]

Maybe human error being the top one?

Sure. One person's error can set of a chain reaction though putting others into unavoidable situations.