Crime BLM activist shoots at Democratic mayor candidate

[cottagecheesefan]

So let's say there's a political motive and the guy is nuts.
I hope there aren't many people out there considering his act righteous but there are some serious double-standards at play here, in terms of how this dude is being labelled, considering his political affiliations.
Also, by bailing him out, the BLM shows exactly how dim-witted identity politics are.
How any sane person could have and can support these clowns is beyond me.

What is obvious is that there wouldn't be one politician on the left side of the isle, doing all kinds of grandstanding, kneeling and what have you, had the gunner been a caucasian male with any kind of remotely right wing political history. I'll say that because the Kenosha Kid was apparently the reincarnation of Hitler and that Smirking Teenager who dared to smile got dragged through mud in the media for far less.
I'm not gonna expand on that more, because it's lame.

I mean fuck it : if he was crazy and on some delusional politically driven psychotic episode, out to get Greenberg then let's call spade a spade.
Lone nutcases can do explicit shit like Utoya or not-so-nuts like Christchurch without being part of anything but still representing A LOT of things.
Being mentally ill is not a free pass and in countries with much better healthcare than in the US, shit still happens on a massive scale.
And if not political, I'm certainly interested to know what the fucks makes a guy do that really, counting out robbery or self-protection. Revenge?

I don't know but he seems dumb as fuck.

unfortunately, this is a pattern with extremist ideologies. This guy became indoctrinated by higher ups within the BLM movement, including Obama .

Then he became an Imam or cleric of sorts by being giving an internship at a news paper to write about what they consider righteous causes and narratives.

and then once preaching this ideology, decided to martyr himself, assassinating someone and hoping they die in then process in a hail of cop gun fire so he could be canonized like Saint George Floyd.

pretty much the most logical sequence of events

 

[Loiosh]

So let's say there's a political motive and the guy is nuts.
I hope there aren't many people out there considering his act righteous but there are some serious double-standards at play here, in terms of how this dude is being labelled, considering his political affiliations.
Also, by bailing him out, the BLM shows exactly how dim-witted identity politics are.
How any sane person could have and can support these clowns is beyond me.

What is obvious is that there wouldn't be one politician on the left side of the isle, doing all kinds of grandstanding, kneeling and what have you, had the gunner been a caucasian male with any kind of remotely right wing political history. I'll say that because the Kenosha Kid was apparently the reincarnation of Hitler and that Smirking Teenager who dared to smile got dragged through mud in the media for far less.
I'm not gonna expand on that more, because it's lame.

I mean fuck it : if he was crazy and on some delusional politically driven psychotic episode, out to get Greenberg then let's call spade a spade.
Lone nutcases can do explicit shit like Utoya or not-so-nuts like Christchurch without being part of anything but still representing A LOT of things.
Being mentally ill is not a free pass and in countries with much better healthcare than in the US, shit still happens on a massive scale.
And if not political, I'm certainly interested to know what the fucks makes a guy do that really, counting out robbery or self-protection. Revenge?

I don't know but he seems dumb as fuck.

If there's a political motive it isn't a BLM motive and doesn't serve them at all on any level. In fact, it hurts them quite a bit, which is why the majority of people in this thread are so excited.

My position on leftwing media and Rittenhouse is well known. He was obviously innocent of the charges and the reporting was incredibly irresponsible.

Expecting the left to treat BLM the same way we expect you to treat white supremacists is a waste of effort. BLM is a civil rights group fighting for the black community and white supremacists are undeniably the bad guys. Association with BLM will always be good and association with white supremacists will always be bad.

This isn't to say that nobody from one group ever does anything bad, it's just someone who puts a lot of effort into demonizing civil rights activists is probably what everyone thinks he is.

I don't think this guy should have been released. Best case scenario he's mentally unstable and dangerous. Worst case scenario he's a murderous political radical.

 

[AndroidRage]

unfortunately, this is a pattern with extremist ideologies. This guy became indoctrinated by higher ups within the BLM movement, including Obama .

Then he became an Imam or cleric of sorts by being giving an internship at a news paper to write about what they consider righteous causes and narratives.

and then once preaching this ideology, decided to martyr himself, assassinating someone and hoping they die in then process in a hail of cop gun fire so he could be canonized like Saint George Floyd.

pretty much the most logical sequence of events

This is the dumbest shit I have read in a long long time. Congrats.

 

[Slick_36]

No, he wasn't. He was a black civil rights activist, it's conservative media making sure he's painted as BLM.

He was a prominent leader and yes, BLM may have allowed him to speak for them, that doesn't make him a part of the organization.

Right now he's waiting for trial. You make it sound like he's a Klan member and has to be denounced. Are there people out there who think this shooting was righteous? Do you think I think that? To the average person this is an inexcusable crime, and I happen to agree. I think you're a part of a demographic that really needs to use this to demonize BLM.

The politics of this thing are clearly more important to you than they are to me, I'm just reacting to how hard conservative media is leaning into blaming BLM, as usual.

BLM has posted their reasons for assisting with bail. They seem reasonable on their face, but honestly, I don't think the reasons are strong enough considering the nature of his crime. Mental health issues don't really seem like a compelling reason to get someone back on the street.

The bigger issue here (for me) is the lack of those services in the jail system. That and the system that allowed someone with his potential issues out on the street.

You're mistaken though, he's not just out on the street and free to do what he wants. He's essentially under a strict house arrest and will he under heavy surveillance.

"Quintez Brown's bond and release have been decided independently by a judge. Mr. Brown will be monitored by the Department of Corrections, consistent with Home Incarceration Program rules and regulations and any conditions set forth in the court order, including use of a GPS monitoring device and home checks. Alerts will notify HIP personnel if the device is tampered with or goes outside the geofence."

 

[Slick_36]

This is factually not true. 1 in 5 people dont go missing for 11 days after an altercation with lifeguards, where cops were called, within 6-7 months is a pretty clear indication.



especially when cops are telling his family they may need to contact the coroners office.



If anything, this is the exact person you would want on a watchlist, whether it be a terrorist one, or simply a mental health one. Clearly, half a year later now, he should have been being watched, and now his life is going to be screwed. Facts.

How was it factually untrue? Here are some numbers provided by NAMI, you can check their sources in that link. Also worth noting that was verbal altercation, not a physical one. Kind of an important detail for you to leave out.

• 21% of U.S. adults experienced mental illness in 2020 (52.9 million people). This represents 1 in 5 adults.
• 5.6% of U.S. adults experienced serious mental illness in 2020 (14.2 million people). This represents 1 in 20 adults.
• 16.5% of U.S. youth aged 6-17 experienced a mental health disorder in 2016 (7.7 million people)
• 6.7% of U.S. adults experienced a co-occurring substance use disorder and mental illness in 2020 (17 million people)

 

[Slick_36]

You’re wasting your energy with that guy. Legit not bright and lacking in character. At best he’s just a shitty troll.

Oh yeah, I guess having a different opinion than you and calling you out when you act like a dishonest hack makes me troll. All 3 or so interactions we have a year, if even that much.

 

[ElKarlo]

This is factually not true. 1 in 5 people dont go missing for 11 days after an altercation with lifeguards, where cops were called, within 6-7 months is a pretty clear indication.



especially when cops are telling his family they may need to contact the coroners office.



If anything, this is the exact person you would want on a watchlist, whether it be a terrorist one, or simply a mental health one. Clearly, half a year later now, he should have been being watched, and now his life is going to be screwed. Facts.

Clearly the dude was and is ill. The fact that he has bail is just one look at how rotten the USA has become. He shouldn’t have made bail. The media is covering for him and should and condemned this. Instead it shows how writ. They are so they are covering.
Also did go fund me get involved? Thought violence wasn’t ok?

 

[cottagecheesefan]

How was it factually untrue? Here are some numbers provided by NAMI, you can check their sources in that link. Also worth noting that was verbal altercation, not a physical one. Kind of an important detail for you to leave out.

• 21% of U.S. adults experienced mental illness in 2020 (52.9 million people). This represents 1 in 5 adults.
• 5.6% of U.S. adults experienced serious mental illness in 2020 (14.2 million people). This represents 1 in 20 adults.
• 16.5% of U.S. youth aged 6-17 experienced a mental health disorder in 2016 (7.7 million people)
• 6.7% of U.S. adults experienced a co-occurring substance use disorder and mental illness in 2020 (17 million people)

cause you were equating him to the 1 in 5 who experience mental illness. I am saying he is beyond that, and as per what you are now posting (moving goal posts) he would at least fall into the 1 in 20, as he obviously has serious mental illness. As pointed out by referencing his altercation having cops called, going missing, and attempting to assassinate someone.

To say this guy is just like 1 in 5 Americans is clearly wrong

 

[cottagecheesefan]

Clearly the dude was and is ill. The fact that he has bail is just one look at how rotten the USA has become. He shouldn’t have made bail. The media is covering for him and should and condemned this. Instead it shows how writ. They are so they are covering.
Also did go fund me get involved? Thought violence wasn’t ok?

only thing that would make it more typical is if a radical left DA let him go, even without the bail, until further investigation and/or trial

 

[Loiosh]

You're mistaken though, he's not just out on the street and free to do what he wants. He's essentially under a strict house arrest and will he under heavy surveillance.

"Quintez Brown's bond and release have been decided independently by a judge. Mr. Brown will be monitored by the Department of Corrections, consistent with Home Incarceration Program rules and regulations and any conditions set forth in the court order, including use of a GPS monitoring device and home checks. Alerts will notify HIP personnel if the device is tampered with or goes outside the geofence."

I did know that, but I don't know how secure it is.

Or how it would stop him from opening fire from his window.

 

[Slick_36]

I did know that, but I don't know how secure it is.

Or how it would stop him from opening fire from his window.

Well he certainly wouldn't have access to a fire arm or anything sharper than a hard boiled egg. From what I read, I don't think he's even going to be in his own home. He'll literally have a geotracker that automatically sends a squad car the second he moves an inch out of his boundary. Someone in his vicinity will be responsible for him as well.

It's not like the dude who got let go in Wisconsin and murdered those poor people at the Christmas parade. That was just an overpopulated and backed up jail system cutting a violent man loose. This is a very different situation and has a different set of conditions.

Lawyers actually very rarely would advise a client to plead not guilty due to mental illness. It's arguably worse than just going to jail in terms of the rights you're giving up. And there's precedent in his history. It's honestly a pretty sad situation but at least he's getting some sort of help for it right now.

 

[CantCucktheTuck]

That is not their term though. Both Glenn and Jimmy shit on liberals.

Not on real liberals.

 

[ShadowRun]

 

[JSN]

I am glad to see Dr. Brown released from that modern day slave ship.

 

[IamStryker]

Barely any of the news stories are mentioning BLM at all when reporting this. Not surprised. I guess now we're all supposed to withhold judgement and assess the difficulties this young man faced in his life and what drove him to do this, right?

Telling people it's ok to hate white people and conservatives isnt a good idea.

 

[IamStryker]

If there's a political motive it isn't a BLM motive and doesn't serve them at all on any level. In fact, it hurts them quite a bit, which is why the majority of people in this thread are so excited.

My position on leftwing media and Rittenhouse is well known. He was obviously innocent of the charges and the reporting was incredibly irresponsible.

Expecting the left to treat BLM the same way we expect you to treat white supremacists is a waste of effort. BLM is a civil rights group fighting for the black community and white supremacists are undeniably the bad guys. Association with BLM will always be good and association with white supremacists will always be bad.

This isn't to say that nobody from one group ever does anything bad, it's just someone who puts a lot of effort into demonizing civil rights activists is probably what everyone thinks he is.

I don't think this guy should have been released. Best case scenario he's mentally unstable and dangerous. Worst case scenario he's a murderous political radical.

Lol at BLM being "good". What a load of nonsense. They are doing far more bad for this country than any white supremacist you can find. All of the violent riots is because of lies spread by BLM activists.

 

[Loiosh]

Well he certainly wouldn't have access to a fire arm or anything sharper than a hard boiled egg. From what I read, I don't think he's even going to be in his own home. He'll literally have a geotracker that automatically sends a squad car the second he moves an inch out of his boundary. Someone in his vicinity will be responsible for him as well.

It's not like the dude who got let go in Wisconsin and murdered those poor people at the Christmas parade. That was just an overpopulated and backed up jail system cutting a violent man loose. This is a very different situation and has a different set of conditions.

Lawyers actually very rarely would advise a client to plead not guilty due to mental illness. It's arguably worse than just going to jail in terms of the rights you're giving up. And there's precedent in his history. It's honestly a pretty sad situation but at least he's getting some sort of help for it right now.

I'm just uncomfortable with the circumstances. I have very strong feelings about the bail system and think this is the kind of thing that could be used against bail reform if it goes awry.

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

Was it the same crowdfunding platform?

 

[ElKarlo]

only thing that would make it more typical is if a radical left DA let him go, even without the bail, until further investigation and/or trial

I’m surprised abs not surprised by this. Guy is clearly dangerous and a tracking device won’t do anything if he wants to go out and cause trouble. Especially since he is clearly being supported by blm and others. So he is probably being told he is correct. Which could justify his actions in the past as well as future ones. Just nuts.

 

[Slick_36]

I'm just uncomfortable with the circumstances. I have very strong feelings about the bail system and think this is the kind of thing that could be used against bail reform if it goes awry.

Yeah, it seems that's already happening and it sucks. Whether it was the right move or not, his bail is being misrepresented and politicized by dishonest people leveraging this for their own agenda. At this point we seem beyond the point of actually fixing these issues without it falling completely apart first.