BJJ players with advanced degrees

bearcat4 said:
Under graduate degrees (though both are very related) in Finance and International Investments.

Currently employed at a Hedge Fund. Working towards obtaining my CFA - Chartered Financial Analyst
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What is your job at the fund? I ask because I love the market, I love market research, and I love hearing about different trading methodologies. Too bad I actually suck at picking stocks (bit it doesn't stop me from trying).
 
J Sho said:
I have seen this stated in a number of places and saulo has himself talked of his law degree, i am quite skeptical that someone who was an elite player since the age of ~20 (and thus presumably just after they finished their law degree) was ever a judge, unless judge means something a lot different in brazil and they have really light hours that permit you being a world class athlete/running an academy?

is there anywhere that saulo himself refers to being a judge or what that entailed?

what next a "No-Gi half guard sweeps" instructional by Stephen Breyer?
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In the vast majority of countries other than the U.S., "law school" is really just an undergraduate major, not a post-graduate school. That's why Saulo says in that interview that he started law school at 17. Also, being a judge can mean anything -- in most countries it's very common for basically untrained newb graduates to slum it as minor criminal/civil judges. It doesn't necessarily resemble what we think of as being a judge in the U.S.

As far as advanced degrees, I think there are a number of reasons why they tend to be common, including the money factor but also the fact that the kind of people who get advanced degrees tend to enjoy the endless grinding ascent, over many years, that characterizes BJJ. I certainly don't think it's because BJJ requires or rewards intelligence, as many of the top competitors ... well ... enough said.
 
SuperSuperRambo said:
Ditto.

TS, just so you know, this thread isn't going to give you a representative sample. First of all the people who post on the grappling forum are the ones who train but are also into the discussion of grappling, and might be more intellectually-inclined. Second, out of those who post on this forum, the ones who post on this thread are going to be mostly those who have (or are working towards) an advanced degree, otherwise they would probably ignore the thread or not reply.
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+1

there is also a difference to get a degree and a relevant job
 
snowolf17 said:
hey all im working on an assignment for school and wanted to ask, how many of you have advanced degrees/in the process of obtaining an advanced degree or degrees beyond a bachelors degree things like MD degrees lawyers, PAs, physical therapists, MBAs etc im conducting a study and my hypothesis is that many people who train BJJ have an advanced education, my reasoning is that BJJ requires time, dedication, and commitment I believe that these characteristics will show up in other areas of BJJ players lives. I'll go first im currently finishing my bachelors in psychology, minoring in human biology, and have plans to attend medical school. (I just thought id post on here to get a feel for how this study will run, thanks all in advance)
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If you're interested in European ppl :
I have a masters degree in education (specialised in the English language for French speanking people) and in research on cultural studies around the English speaking countries (specialised in visual arts in the UK and in the U.S.) I also intend to try to continue toward a PHD in the same field (specialised in UK comics and graphic novels).

Hope that might help.
 
You will find Sherdog has a higher number of lawyers, physicists, doctors and all around intelligent people then anywhere else on the entire internet.

All of them train BJJ/Kickboxing with multiple tournament/ring fight wins and are shredded as well.
 
Vhagar said:
You will find Sherdog has a higher number of lawyers, physicists, doctors and all around intelligent people then anywhere else on the entire internet.

All of them train BJJ/Kickboxing with multiple tournament/ring fight wins and are shredded as well.
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f2 is different. People who don't train generally don't post here, wut the hell would be the point. And most of us know others in here too. So do you have an advanced degree or did you just come in here to show everyone that you're too cool for school?
 
Bullheaded said:
If you're interested in European ppl :
I have a masters degree in education (specialised in the English language for French speanking people) and in research on cultural studies around the English speaking countries (specialised in visual arts in the UK and in the U.S.) I also intend to try to continue toward a PHD in the same field (specialised in UK comics and graphic novels).

Hope that might help.
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cool, I like that, it's really different, in which university have you studied ?
 
EternalRag3 said:
Eh? what degree is this?
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Im from Mexico, i can post the whole name in spanish but meh.

It basically a rebranded hydraulic resources masters, my thesis is about tree plantations under irrigation.
 
Rod1 said:
Im from Mexico, i can post the whole name in spanish but meh.

It basically a rebranded hydraulic resources masters, my thesis is about tree plantations under irrigation.
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I think the confusion was that you said an M.D. in something or other... an M.D. is a medical doctor. It is quite a bit different (and much more elite in most cases) than a M.A. or M.S. (your typical master's degree in the U.S.). It did not make sense the way you phrased it.
 
armtriangle said:
I didn't make a leap, just put forth my own "guess". I don't know if it is true or not, but I think it makes sense economically. There may be many other factors though, now that I have had time to consider it. I think the biggest factor is parenting, kids who are involved with sports are more likely to have involved or encouraging parents; those same kids are more likely to grow up and go on to advanced degrees. So my hypothesis might not hold water, but the point is that I do not think the "traits" that make a person obtain an advanced degree (usually vanity if we really went to the heart of the issue) help a person stay dedicated to hobbies. Otherwise, most folks with advanced degrees would be better at golf... Honestly, if you believe that most pursue advanced degrees out of vanity (as I really do), then this could actually cause people with advanced degrees to have a higher drop out rate than the general public (because of the ass kicking you get when you start). But if you have the combination of vanity and dedication, you could theorize that they are also more likely to become advanced students (vanity so overwhelming that they are willing to do what is required to not get ass kicked).

I am half kidding, but the point is that how you define the "traits" of advanced degree holders will ultimately determine how you view the hypothesis. Dedication is obviously required, but I don't think a person with an advanced degree is any more dedicated in general to things in life, than someone else. They are dedicated to things they excel at, like almost everyone.

Congratulations on being both atletic and dedicated to school, but your individual experience has no relevance here. Aside from the fact that you are not part of the population of advanced degree holders (if I read your post correctly), I didn't say that all people who were good students would quit sports, or even many. I just theorized that the percentage would be higher (maybe only marginally) than non-degree holders. Still, I recognize that the theory may not hold up, as I just spit it out on the spot, and neglected to consider other factors.
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So he made a leap, you made a guess. Ah, now I see. Very different.

Of-freaking-course kids with supportive parents and a decent socioeconomic status will lead to more higher education, anyone could tell you that. I've (unfortunately) seen a lot of smart, talented people with a lot of potential lose it because they simply couldn't afford to be in school; they had to get into the work force immediately.

As for the vanity thing, sounds like a personal vendetta of yours, lol. No one puts themselves through years and years of bullshit (except for those force fed it through obsessive parents) for vanity, but rather because they want a good job that they may or may not enjoy doing. Comfort and future security may be less noble, and common, reasons than 'serving the people?' Sure. But vanity is low on the list.

I put my little part in there to show that I did everything and a half during high school. And I'm not particularly smart, nor particularly athletic, but I managed it, so I think that your "guess" doesn't have much to do with it. Yes, anecdotal evidence is about as quality of a response as the claim, but it was to show that the time commitment to high school education really is not enough to force anyone dedicated to quit sports. Of the 10 kids in my high school who are now in medical school with me (if many responses here are "X years into X degree," and due to the fact that OP asked who was also working on one, I don't see why you're harping on me not having a degree yet) many played--and never quit--high school sports. Some quit and some just didn't give a damn in the first place. I just think you made a silly claim.

Here's my thing: you're either good or you're not. You'll meet guys who are super smart, super analytical, watch DVDs, take notes, and they're too damn stiff from thinking the whole time to actually perform any of the techniques. I've met World Champions that people would consider "dumb" based on no access to general education but that can tie you into 400 different knots because they just get it. There is "smart" that society values (the kind you get paid a lot for) and "smart" that tends to get taken for granted. Having a degree gives you the money and time to pursue Jiu Jitsu, but very little advantage, or disadvantage, otherwise.
 
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last semester of my mba with an emphasis in finance, undergrad was in Economics
 
armtriangle said:
What is your job at the fund? I ask because I love the market, I love market research, and I love hearing about different trading methodologies. Too bad I actually suck at picking stocks (bit it doesn't stop me from trying).
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I don't trade, i am on the analytical side. Wide variety of responsibilities but mainly Portfolio Analysis and Product Development.

Luckily for me we have both fixed income and equities so I am exposed to both. In this market you might as well throw darts at a board when picking investments! =)
 
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