Hooookay, guys. Here's something that's been bugging me for a while. I'm sitting here watching some instructionals I purchased, one of them is supposed to be this great instructional by some bloke called Neal "Mister Armbar" Adams. I say, okay..."Mister Armbar", sounds great. Thing is...as I'm watching it, the guy says his style is judo! And in no place do I hear anything about who the BJJ expert was that trained him! It was a cool tape...no doubt...and I'm not flaming Neal Adams...but if you are going to put out a tape about a BJJ technique, shouldn't you at least give BJJ some cred or give lip service to the BJJist that taught you the move? This tape was from like, the 80's, too...which proves that BJJ was still having an impact even before the UFC. P.S. I actually also was reading a site where it talked about how Funaki, Shamrock and some other early shoot-fighters were trained by basically pro-wrestlers or something...WTF? I know BJJ gets lots of credit already, but obviously from what I've seen of Pancrase, all those guys used BJJ and lots of it. And I mean, Sakuraba supposedly does "submission wrestling" but obviously he is using mostly BJJ, not wrestling! And even Yoshida and Parisyian that supposedly are judo experts, use as many ground submissions(BJJ)as they use throws! So I guess my overall point is that even though BJJ gets much props, it might actually be underrated!