BJ Penn is an all time great. Why??

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The man will retire with a .500 record. Who the fuck is an all-time great that retires with a record like that? At 30 years old Frankie beat him down. Quite frankly embarrassed him. This dude is literally the most overrated fighter in the history of the sport. Honestly that shit isn’t even close.
 
He had some amazing wins, especially considering his size, and the size of his opponents.

Definitely a legend, peaked early, fell hard and had fought way too long...but a legend nonetheless.
 
He's a former champ who fought up in weight more than he should of. (And still won a higher championship)
 
Can’t stand him and didn’t like him in his ‘prime’

But he’s up there

He did good shit in his day
 
Held on way to long and has significantly tarnished his legacy.

Hopefully Anderson hangs them up soon to.
 
Should really be in GOAT discussions but unfortunately he never fulfilled his full potential.

I'm far from a BJ fan boy (check my posts!), but these are facts.

If you don't appreciate how good be was and could have been its most likely because you didn't follow mma back then
 
You hate him, we get it. Turn the page.
 
You're wrong. Conor and Ronda are/were far more overrated.
 
He's a former champ who fought up in weight more than he should of. (And still won a higher championship)

That is why he’s overrated as hell. People want to make excuses for all of the losses.
 
Bj went up a weight class and shocked the world beating one of the most dominant champs at the time in Matt Hughes. He also arguably beat Gsp in their first fight while going up a weight class. He tapped out Gomi right before he became the pride superstar. He is one of the few people to have belts in two weight classes in the ufc. He had several title defenses and his style really had no holes. He has destroyed his legacy but he was once one of the best to ever fight.0474B3CE-F5D0-47A4-9FC8-990C0F3145BE.jpeg
 
Bj went up a weight class and shocked the world beating one of the most dominant champs at the time in Matt Hughes. He also arguably beat Gsp in their first fight while going up a weight class. He tapped out Gomi right before he became the pride superstar. He is one of the few people to have belts in two weight classes in the ufc. He had several title defenses and his style really had no holes. He has destroyed his legacy but he was once one of the best to ever fight.View attachment 638513

1-1 with Hughes in their primes. 0-2 with GSP They both violently finished him in a rematch. Sorry have to do better than that. BJ Penn’s overall record is awful. Absolutely awful. 30 years old Frankie was beating the hell out of him.
 
The man will retire with a .500 record. Who the fuck is an all-time great that retires with a record like that? At 30 years old Frankie beat him down. Quite frankly embarrassed him. This dude is literally the most overrated fighter in the history of the sport. Honestly that shit isn’t even close.
He might be one of if not the most overrated fighter in mma history but lets not act like he was a bum. He was a pretty good fighter in his prime.
 
He is probably one of the worst fighters in UFC history
 
He got old. Most of his losses are after his prime years were over. I cant understand the need to bash a guy who never played it safe. Compared to a normal top fighter in mma he always picked a more challenging approach.
 
This proves tuf fan boys who post way too much are alive and well on sherdoggy. Don't make threads bud
 
dont bother guys just let his shit thread die
 
He is probably one of the worst fighters in UFC history

He’s the one with the most excuses. When he lost it was because he was either lazy or fighting out of class. He also will retire with a .500 record.
 
"The fight game starts hard and ends harder. This is an almost universal truth. Five years after he realized he might be done, Penn should know for sure now.

His legacy won’t be left in numbers. These final losses made sure of that. If you need to analyze his record, you didn't see him at his best. And if you saw him at his best, you wouldn't need to analyze his record.

Penn was great. Penn was game. And to the end, Penn refused to stop taking on challenges that appeared unconquerable because...because just scrap. That’s why."

A guy by the name of Mike Chiappetta wrote that after the Yair fight, it's part of one of my favorite articles.

I can't tell you why others consider Penn an all time great, but I'll tell you why he's an all time great to me.

I've been a combat sports fan for a while now. When I was a kid, my Dad told me about Riddick Bowe tossing his belt in the trash to avoid fighting Lennox. In my lifetime, I've seen Chuck/Wand happen years after it originally should have. I saw Mayweather and Pacquiao dance around eachother and play the blame game for literally half a decade. I saw Canelo hold out on fighting GGG until he started to slip a bit. I saw GSP not want anything to do with fighting Anderson even when presented with the offer of a catchweight fight. I saw Anderson want nothing to do with the idea of a Jones fight during the time that was on the table. We just saw a heavyweight superfight go up in flames in Joshua/Wilder because of shenanigans. Roy Jones and Tiger never happened because of this, that, or the other. DJ didn't want to fight TJ. Rhonda and Cyborg would constantly get at eachother throats, but a deal could never be reached. I'm forgetting a bunch, I'm sure.

Penn, for all his flaws, never once held up a big fight. He wanted to fight the best fighters available, regardless of anything else. He didn't care about weight classes, where the fight was held, how much he was going to be paid, or how a potential loss would effect his legacy or earning potential.

When Penn got offered the GSP II fight, I guarantee he didn't think about anything except that he wanted the fight. He got the fight. And ten years later, a lot of people still refer to it as the biggest fight in UFC history.

GSP had the opportunity to do the same thing with Anderson, but instead of signing on the dotted line, he weighed the pros and cons, and decided it was a bad choice. Now maybe he was right and maybe he was wrong, but regardless, we never got the fight. And we, the fans, wanted the fight.

BJ gave the fans what they wanted to see, and that's what his fans remember about him. So, when you see someone say "oh well BJ fought outside of his weight class" it isn't an excuse, it's the truth. You don't see fighters that are stars (and trust me, Penn was a star) take the legacy altering risks that he took.
 
He had some amazing wins, especially considering his size, and the size of his opponents.

Definitely a legend, peaked early, fell hard and had fought way too long...but a legend nonetheless.
IMO...LEGEND???

only by those who are fashionable... couple good wins...But Legend? Not even Great.
Purely a marketing made fighter...hype followed a Lot because of bjj blackbelt win in Brazil.. Gave him a mystique ..Media Ran with it. Good Fighter when he was good...No biggie. Lousy Person.
 
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