Better win for a MW champ? Jan or Forrest?

[Koro_11]

I know Jan is "champion", but Griffin was just one fight removed from being champ himself, and he actually won his belt from the previous champ not like here where you had the best guy vacating the belt and you're fighting another contender for it.

I like Jan, I'm really happy for him that he won the belt, but he would have to be considered a notch below Forrest Griffin at this point when comparing all time great 205'ers.

 

[ExitLUPin]

I think its a wash. Forrest and Jan are both career journeymen for the most part

 

[TheMessiah]

Definitely. Jan is good but Forrest was just better

 

[M4R5]

Jan and it’s not close

 

[SeattleFightFan]

Griffin is higher than Jan by more than a notch.

But Jan is the better win.

Work your brain around those two not mutually exclusive statements

 

[Kowboy On Sherdog]

Jan. But I do think Forrest has the better win, #1 Shogun coming to the UFC after destroying the best in the Pride Tournament.

 

[TheSpider]

Prime Forrest that was coming off wins over prime Shogun, prime Rampage, and was up 2-0 on prime Rashed before getting caught > wins over MW Rockhold, Corey, and Reyes

 

[Koro_11]

Jan and it’s not close

Explain why?

 

[Hellowhosthat]

I think its a wash. Forrest and Jan are both career journeymen for the most part

How is Forrest Griffin a journeyman?

 

[You Will Vote For Dreyga]

I think its a wash. Forrest and Jan are both career journeymen for the most part

Can’t call someone a journeyman if they win the belt

 

[mraa1]

I like Izzy better than Anderson but it's Griffin. wins over Rua and Rampage> Reyes and MW bloated Rockhold and Jacare

 

[Volador]

Similar caliber of wins, but the fact that Jan is actually holding the LHW belt will give it some significance when looking back at Israel's achievements, assuming he can pull it off.

 

[kalabula]

Griffin is higher than Jan by more than a notch.

But Jan is the better win.

Work your brain around those to not mutually exclusive statements

If I knew how, I’d post a GIF of the head exploding from Scanners. It would be funny and everyone would like me.

 

[ExitLUPin]

Jan. But I do think Forrest has the better win, #1 Shogun coming to the UFC after destroying the best in the Pride Tournament.

Shogun had an ACL injury and gassed in like 2 minutes. Was similar to the injury issues against Coleman in the rematch and Bones. He completely gassed within a couple minutes in all those fights.

 

[1pedestrian]

Jan because he has the belt.

 

[Benoitthegr8]

In B4 recency bias... guess not

 

[BigGing]

Jan is probably more skilled, but Forest was a bigger name and known for his durability

 

[SeattleFightFan]

If I knew how, I’d post a GIF of the head exploding from Scanners. It would be funny and everyone would like me.

Mom always liked me best.

 

[kalabula]

Mom always liked me best.

You stole my glory. This will not soon be forgotten.

 

[Kowboy On Sherdog]

Shogun had an ACL injury and gassed in like 2 minutes. Was similar to the injury issues against Coleman in the rematch and Bones. He completely gassed within a couple minutes in all those fights.

I asked Frank and he said Shogun was a 137 years old by then...