Better ground game. Guillard or Conor?

[BJPenn2012]

I just think this is relevant because both are good strikers who fought Nate Diaz, although if I recall correctly Melvin was dusting Nate up on the feet and even dropped him, just kinda went for a stupid takedown ala Kampmann Vs Alves and got choked out. I could be remembering it wrong, but either way I remember Guillard doing better than Conor against Nate and believe he has the better Jiu Jitsu.

 

[KDR by RNC]

"Go train jiu-jitsu Melvin!" - Rich Clementi

 

[Sonny Qc]

#1 I don't like Conor

Conor didn't lose because of a bad ground game.

He gassed out and was rock when he try the stupid takedown...

 

[chitoortiz]

Conor has a better ground game. Not even a Q.

Better Q would be Guillard or Houston "for real" Alexander

 

[LouisBolanos]

Conor is a black belt at panic wrestling. He gets tapped half a minute after he panic wrestles. That's legit skill.

 

[BJPenn2012]

"Go train jiu-jitsu Melvin!" - Rich Clementi

To be fair Clementi exposed Rumble and Rumble has yet to figure out how to protect his neck

 

[BJPenn2012]

#1 I don't like Conor

Conor didn't lose because of a bad ground game.

He gassed out and was rock when he try the stupid takedown...

The shitty ground game was definitely a deciding factor, actually. The way he defended that choke was Melvinesque. That why I had to ask.

 

[legkicktko]

I would say Conors is better but not by much

 

[Sonny Qc]

The shitty ground game was definitely a deciding factor, actually. The way he defended that choke was Melvinesque. That why I had to ask.

Cain Velasquez also got a shitty ground game , He got choke by Werdum...

 

[mjmj]

The shitty ground game was definitely a deciding factor, actually. The way he defended that choke was Melvinesque. That why I had to ask.

No it wasn’t. It’s like you haven’t watched anything but highlights of the finish. You’re completely disregarding the fact he was knocked silly by that point.

 

[Rvd Slmr]

Guillard had been exposed continuously all along his career, got teabagged on PPV and never bothered to do anything about it. At least Conor survived several ground exchanges.

 

[BJPenn2012]

No it wasn’t. It’s like you haven’t watched anything but highlights of the finish. You’re completely disregarding the fact he was knocked silly by that point.

Yea, I guess Melvin did do worlds better on the feet against Nate. Still though, that's not what we are here to discuss.

 

[SPB]

I just think this is relevant because both are good strikers who fought Nate Diaz, although if I recall correctly Melvin was dusting Nate up on the feet and even dropped him, just kinda went for a stupid takedown ala Kampmann Vs Alves and got choked out. I could be remembering it wrong, but either way I remember Guillard doing better than Conor against Nate and believe he has the better Jiu Jitsu.

Yes, Melvin was easily winning the Nate fight, then for some stupid reason went for a lazy TD and stuck his head under Nate's arm for an easy guillotine.

If Mel had kept it standing he would have had an easy decision, and Nate would likely have been cut from the UFC.

 

[tat2man5k]

This is a hilarious thread!!!

 

[Deleted member 498977]

Houston Alexander has the best!

 

[Phronimos]

Conor has a decent ground game, Mendes and Diaz are beasts on the ground, so they made him look bad.

 

[Dart Feld]

"Go train jiu-jitsu Melvin!" - Rich Clementi

 

[TriangleMonkey]

If someone booked Melvin vs Conor Id watch, just saying

 

[NightwingBJJ]

Herb Dean saved Guillard from being Paul Daley'd.

 

[Dart Feld]

Herb Dean saved Guillard from being Paul Daley'd.

Yep, he locked that down very quickly. To this day Idk what Big Dan thought Daley was going to do to Kos instead of punching him.