Best survival gun?

[tru3f4n]

I saw a film of an Inuit killing a polar bear with a .22. Many pigs and cows are killed with a .22 before being butchered. There is an occasional black bear around here. Maybe a coyote or two. No mountain lions, wild pigs, or moose

I buy ammo online and purchased 1000 rounds of .22 in May. I had another 1000 rounds already. It's easy to keep a lot of .22 ammo as it doesn't take much room.

Where will you find rifle ammo or reloading supplies?

When it comes to shooting, your first shot is your best shot but my .22 is a Ruger Semi Auto with 30 round magazines.

I don't care what an Inuit did there's alot more storys of people just pissing off brown bears when shooting them with smaller caliber rnds. You ever watch Wild West Alaska they had a older man on there that killed a brown bear with his pocket knife that doesn't make me want to try it. I have plenty ammo I won't need to handload any and why would you have a 30rnd magazine I know .22 is cheap but damn.

 

[ssBaldy]

Fucking Russians man...taking guns in space capsules. What could go wrong.

many things can go wrong once the capsule lands.

 

[ironwolf]

many things can go wrong once the capsule lands.

Sure, land 1000 miles off course in the urals in the middle of winter. Not sure a pistol is really going to help.

I mean it makes sense, pilots usually carry a handgun and that's all these guys were...pilots, just seems crazy to have a gun in a pressurized space capsul. Is all.

 

[ironwolf]

I don't care what an Inuit did there's alot more storys of people just pissing off brown bears when shooting them with smaller caliber rnds. You ever watch Wild West Alaska they had a older man on there that killed a brown bear with his pocket knife that doesn't make me want to try it. I have plenty ammo I won't need to handload any and why would you have a 30rnd magazine I know .22 is cheap but damn.

But the topic is survival, not the beat gun for larger game. As I pointed out earlier many Inuits still are subsistence hunters which is survival hunting. The the ethics and risks are much different than for somebody who is hunting for sport or trophies.

Obviously shooting a deer with a 22 is a bit risky and unethical but in a real survival situation you'll need to take risks and break the code of ethics to feed yourself and your family.

If personally rather have a 22 rhat can get rabbits, squirrels, birds and get a deer in a pinch than I would a 30 caliber hunting rifle that is only useful for deer.

People seem to think that hunting is easy and they are just going to run off into the forest and get a deer a trine they are hungry when in fact hunting was hard 10,000 years ago and it's still hard today, hunting is generally frustration and very difficult. Shit try hunting on public land where the success rates are under 10%....would you want to rely on that??? Or would you rather have a gun that you could consistently get smaller stuff with???

I've hunted for over 25 years and I've been skunked more than I've had success but I know in a pinch i could drop a deer with my AR.

I think you would be surprised how much big game meat gets consumed in Inuit villages and settlements and how many 223, 22 and 22-250 rifles you will come across in those areas....and they are hunting for survival....there's not much growing out if the ground up there in the winters.

Like I said for survival you'll take bigger risks and have different ethics because you'll be starving and so will your kids.

Another thing to think about...are people here even in shape for real hunting??? Stalking, packing??? Lots of people think they are in shape then can't even finish a few days of serious elk or moose hunting.

 

[mjmj]

single shot means you have to reload after every shot that's not effective. Even if you're not in bear country there is other animals to worry about especial if this was an event that would cause you to bug out. What are you going to do if you ran into a starving pack of dogs or a group of wild pigs where you don't have time to reload? I don't live in bear country either but there is alot of hog farms here and alot of ppl with pet dogs that wouldn't take to long to turn feral. I don't mind guns that are simple with bolt action being at the top of the list but not a damn single shot there is plenty of them out there with a built in box magazine that are just as reliable. As for the .22lr not a fan I just don't see the use for it outside of plinking or hunting small game and I wouldn't use it in a bug out situation when I have a Marlin 336 chambered in .30-30.

I have to assume your hunting experience is very limited.

 

[Scerpi]

My 223 Ruger Mini-14

My bro, who lives in Cody, is an amazing shot shot with his 243. He uses it for everything from axis, antelopes, white tails and elk.

There's always extra cow tags available because the usual dope hunters want Bulls (and they normally strike out), so he's able to get 3 or 4 cow elks each year.

Every fall, all of us get deliveries from him. Jerky, sausage, steaks...

I know where I'm heading if shit goes down.

 

[ironwolf]

My 223 Ruger Mini-14

My bro, who lives in Cody, is an amazing shot shot with his 243. He uses it for everything from axis, antelopes, white tails and elk.

There's always extra cow tags available because the usual dope hunters want Bulls (and they normally strike out), so he's able to get 3 or 4 cow elks each year.

Every fall, all of us get deliveries from him. Jerky, sausage, steaks...

I know where I'm heading if shit goes down.

There's axis deer in Wyoming???

 

[Scerpi]

There's axis deer in Wyoming???

Nah, he comes down here sometimes. Sometimes I go up there.

He likes the 243 because it's so versitile and accurate at long ranges. And it's much lighter than the bigger guns.

 

[ironwolf]

Nah, he comes down here sometimes. Sometimes I go up there.

He likes the 243 because it's so versitile and accurate at long ranges. And it's much lighter than the bigger guns.

Oh you live down in Texas? Yeah 243 is a good caliber.

 

[tru3f4n]

I have to assume your hunting experience is very limited.

and I have to assume you know jack shit I'm not talking about hunting like you and that other guy with the .22 fetish seems to be talking about. keep on thinking that single shot .22 will be enough to keep you safe.

 

[wilKO]

My trusted 4 barrel rocket launcher. It's usually a 1 shot kill gun too so it's reliable. It's good for taking out anything from deer to trees. Can be quite heavy and extra ammo requires a backpack but when I use it on empty beer cans I usually get them all with one shot so more ammo isn't necessary.

 

[ironwolf]

My trusted 4 barrel rocket launcher. It's usually a 1 shot kill gun too so it's reliable. It's good for taking out anything from deer to trees. Can be quite heavy and extra ammo requires a backpack but when I use it on empty beer cans I usually get them all with one shot so more ammo isn't necessary.

There's shooting ranges in Cambodia and Laos that let you kill cows with RPGs and hand grenades.

 

[wilKO]

There's shooting ranges in Cambodia and Laos that let you kill cows with RPGs and hand grenades.

That sounds amazing. Grenade sounds so barbaric lol.

 

[ironwolf]

That sounds amazing. Grenade sounds so barbaric lol.

I never did it but some of the guys I used to work with did.

 

[wilKO]

I never did it but some of the guys I used to work with did.

I don't think I would have it in me.

 

[mjmj]

and I have to assume you know jack shit I'm not talking about hunting like you and that other guy with the .22 fetish seems to be talking about. keep on thinking that single shot .22 will be enough to keep you safe.

I guess you’re the only one not understanding the topic. You also clearly have little or no outdoors experience. Unless you’re stranded somewhere like Kodiak Island, the odds of some sort of animal attack are slim to none. The key to surviving is food and water, that’s why most of us are focused on hunting. The little 22 will kill anything in North America with ease, providing the person using it knows what they’re doing.

 

[Te Huna Matata]

LOL at people saying a 22 LR. You know how many rounds it's gonna take to put game down with one of those? If a bear attacks, you better shoot him in the head and hope it penetrates the skull. Otherwise, you are now bear shit. You want to take down a deer for meat. You better double lung him otherwise he's running for a very long distance before he drops, if he does.

 

[ironwolf]

I don't think I would have it in me.

Yeah I'm not into killing stuff just for fun. Also, you have to pay for the RPG and the cow....it's expensive.

 

[ironwolf]

I guess you’re the only one not understanding the topic. You also clearly have little or no outdoors experience. Unless you’re stranded somewhere like Kodiak Island, the odds of some sort of animal attack are slim to none. The key to surviving is food and water, that’s why most of us are focused on hunting. The little 22 will kill anything in North America with ease, providing the person using it knows what they’re doing.

I don't think it will kill anything in North America with ease, not at all. I just think 22 is more useful because you could shoot smaller stuff which is much more abundant than deer.

People who think they are just going to go on a walk and get a deer are dreaming, it's harder than that. However, squirrels, rabbits, snakes, birds.....much easier and a 22 is good for that.

 

[RerouteToRemain]

If I couldn't bring an AR I would probably go with a PS90.