Best recent non-UFC Events

[zec1234]

This is the list of top 20 recent (last 3 weeks) non-UFC events:

Since we removed UFC, and there are no recent Bellator events, there are not too many USA events in the top 20.


If we extend time period to last 3 months, then we have following top 20 list:

 

[zec1234]

If you want to see how Event rankings are created, you can go to this Sherdog Thread

How to rank Events? ScoreCardMMA ranking of Events

 

[ebartlett84]

Interesting lists to look at.

First List
Was the Tachi show on 8-7 eligible? What is your cutoff date?

Where does the last CES show land?

The Aspera event doesn't impress me.

Do what you have to do to drive that Jewels show down.

Second List
Was hoping to see Titan 29. That was a good event.

Where does the Grandslam event from 7-13 fall? 8-1 Rebel show?

 

[PIT FIGHTER]

This most recent ONE FC show has fans buzzing!

 

[zec1234]

Interesting lists to look at.

First List
Was the Tachi show on 8-7 eligible? What is your cutoff date?

TPF 20 - Night of Champions was just outside of 3 weeks and has Score=146.
So, if it was inside those 3 weeks, it would be ranked between:
12. TFC 29 - Titan Fighting Championship 29
13. CWFC 70 - Cage Warriors Fighting Championship 70


Where does the last CES show land?

CES MMA 25 was also outside of 3 weeks. Score=110


The Aspera event doesn't impress me.

I am not saying it was a world class event, but in the last 3 weeks there were no too many events that are better.
They had several very good Brazilians:
Luis Rafael Laurentino is 27-0.
Jonas Boeno do Rosario is 27-9 and had Twister Submission on this event.
Erick Carlos Silva is 13-4.
Those are much better records than any of those other shows.


Do what you have to do to drive that Jewels show down.

Why should Deep - Jewels 5 be lower?
They had very high level championship fight (Mizuki Inoue) and few other female fighters that are ranked high.


Second List
Was hoping to see Titan 29. That was a good event.

Titan 20 has 149 points and is ranked #22 on that list.
#21 is Fight Nights - Battle of Moscow 16
#23 is Vale Tudo Japan 5th in Osaka


Where does the Grandslam event from 7-13 fall? 8-1 Rebel show?

Grandslam MMA - Way of the Cage has 130 points.

Answers in Yellow.
I hope I answered all.

 

[ebartlett84]

Answers in Yellow.
I hope I answered all.

Thanks.

I'm a women's mma fan, but that Jewels show doesn't belong so high. I have a hard time coming up with empirical data to support this, but-


Event took place at a 600 person capacity venue.
Didn't garner a whole lot of fan attention.
5 total bouts.

 

[zec1234]

Thanks.

I'm a women's mma fan, but that Jewels show doesn't belong so high. I have a hard time coming up with empirical data to support this, but-


Event took place at a 600 person capacity venue.
Didn't garner a whole lot of fan attention.
5 total bouts.

You have some valid points, but we don't use venue capacity in this calculation.
5 total bouts, that is something we use. I can see how whole calculation is done for this event, but 250 points is not a huge score.

Consider this:
- Ayaka Hamasaki and Naho Sugiyama are both top 5 in 105 division.
- Mizuki Inoue is #5 and Emi Tomimatsu is #14 in female 115 division. That was for Jewels belt.
- Mina Kurobe is #10 and Masako Yoshida is #15 at 105.

That looks very strong. And some fights were very exiting.

 

[VulcanNervPinch]

Well, I like the concept, like the effort, and like some of the criteria.

However, there's one controversial and really problematic thing, IMO.

Your system highly rates (overrates?) Asian events that are loaded up with ranked fighters < 150 pounds that no one (in English speaking countries, who would be most of your audience) gives a crap about.


If 4 different cards have as their main event:
The 1+2 HWs in the world
The 1+2 LWs
The 1+2 straweights
The 1+2 SHWs

Those 4 matches simply aren't anywhere near equal - not in fan appeal, not in quality of fighter, not in cost to sign the fighters - not in anything.


So - depending on what you want your list to be reflective of - that situation may require major adjustment.

 

[zec1234]

Well, I like the concept, like the effort, and like some of the criteria.
However, there's one controversial and really problematic thing, IMO.
Your system highly rates (overrates?) Asian events that are loaded up with ranked fighters < 150 pounds that no one (in English speaking countries, who would be most of your audience) gives a crap about.

If 4 different cards have as their main event:
The 1+2 HWs in the world
The 1+2 LWs
The 1+2 straweights
The 1+2 SHWs

Those 4 matches simply aren't anywhere near equal - not in fan appeal, not in quality of fighter, not in cost to sign the fighters - not in anything.

So - depending on what you want your list to be reflective of - that situation may require major adjustment.

I appreciate your comments and you have a right way of thinking.

But, I don't use just ranking in the division (weight category) to do those calculations.
I also use P4P ranking, Fighter Current Score and All Time Rating.
Each of those values describe fighters from different angle.

For example, comparing Ayaka Hamasaki and Ronda Rousey.

Hamasaki is ranked #1 at F-105 (Female Atomweight division), #10 Female P4P , #60 P4P overall (male &female) , has 637 Current Score and 26 All Time Rating.

Rousey is ranked #1 at F-135 (Female BW), #1 Female P4P , #4 P4P overall (male &female) , has 910 Current Score and 33 All Time Rating.

They are both #1 in Category, but when you use all of those other measures, they are not even close.

When you look at male P4P ranking and Current Score, Hamasaki would have similar value like Jussier da Silva (#4 Fly) or Emanuel Newton (#10 LHW).


If you look at numbers for Naho Sugiyama, she has even lover value.
She is #5 at F-105, #36 Female P4P , #213 P4P overall (male &female) , has 470 Current Score and 19 All Time Rating.

That is approximately equivalent to Georgi Karakhanyan (WSOF, #25 FW) or Cheick Kongo (Bellator, #26 HW).

So, I have taken care of that disparity between divisions.

And, regarding my target audience, it is overall MMA community.
I don't give a crap that somebody doesn't give a crap about Asian events.
Trying to treat everybody equally.