Best examples of "Retrospective Determinism" in MMA?(Big wins that werent inevitable)

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  1. ethanfranklin

    ethanfranklin Banned Banned

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    See if you can get your heads around this one -

    Retrospective determinism is the informal fallacy that because something happened, it was therefore bound to happen;

    In MMA this is when a guy wins emphatically, and this informs opinion that he therefore won inevitably.

    Proven Example - Cain v JDS 1.

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    Example 1- Id have Anderson v Vitor as a good example of a possible case as the fight finished emphatically, but could easily have gone the other way.

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    An even match up could go any number of ways, before the first cain jds fight the popular idea was that cain could win a decision or jds would clip him early. A better example of what your talking about is something like cain vs Bigfoot the first fight didn't leave much doubt who was better, thre wasn't a whole lot else Bigfoot could do with his skill set.
     
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    ethanfranklin Banned Banned

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    If you have two great KO artists and they are both swinging for the fences and both have glass jaws, then the winner will be afforded a ton of retrospective determinism, because of the emphatic nature of the victory.

    This is a clear example.

    However this idea, that an emphatic victory was also an inevitable victory really pervades the sport.

    From a handicapping/betting stand point, its one of the biggest and most widespread myths in MMA.
     
  4. sangreporsangre

    sangreporsangre Gold Belt

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    How about, Strikeforce going into business with M1 meant that they were gonna go under and be purchased by Zuffa
     
  5. DarthChen731

    DarthChen731 Gold Belt

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    Ok, but Anderson is better than Vitor.
     
  6. ethanfranklin

    ethanfranklin Banned Banned

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    Im more interested in specific fights, but sure, its your thread. If you want to make points about the game itself, go ahead.
     
  7. GloutonSang

    GloutonSang Brown Belt

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    I'm one of those jackasses who thinks Nog beats Mir 8/10 times.
     
  8. DarthChen731

    DarthChen731 Gold Belt

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    Same lol
     
  9. ethanfranklin

    ethanfranklin Banned Banned

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    Still could have just as easily lost there.
     

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