best conditioned heavyweight?

[GlassJaw]

Texx Cobb. Surely.

 

[deadpool]

marciano
holyfield

both of them leaned heavily on their ability to maintain and fight at a high pace, not to mention conditioning themselves to take and recover from abuse against larger opp

as stated b4 w/out his conditioning marciano would have been sh*t

Totally agree with this. I say that Holyfield too, used his good workrate and hard chin to overcome being smaller than many HWs.

 

[cottagecheesefan]

george foreman in his comeback. His muscular/strength endurance is outstanding. That's what happend when you do half a mile dragging a hummer rather than 6 miles of cadio vascular endurance.

 

[pr0ne2gr8tness]

george foreman in his comeback. His muscular/strength endurance is outstanding. That's what happend when you do half a mile dragging a hummer rather than 6 miles of cadio vascular endurance.

but does the fact his opponents back off, give him the time to recover? would a pressure fighter rob him of his conditioning?

 

[pr0ne2gr8tness]

Texx Cobb. Surely.

Dee Collier agrees :icon_chee

 

[MeBig]

all the guys mentioned are right up there but going on body fat and pure physique its gotta be david haye.

are you trying to open a man-loving pandora's box? It was apparent from the thread title on that it definately wasn't about physique, and I don't see how that applies to boxing at all.

 

[cottagecheesefan]

but does the fact his opponents back off, give him the time to recover? would a pressure fighter rob him of his conditioning?

they kept backing off because he had the power at that point in the fight, even late in the fight, to make them back off.

what came first, the chicken or the egg?

 

[MeBig]

Ali, I still remember straigh after his fight with Liston, he was panting and gasping for air and he said something along the lines of "I never want to do that again".

You sure you're not talking about the Frazier fight?

 

[BobbyBrez]

Probably James Toney.

 

[pr0ne2gr8tness]

they kept backing off because he had the power at that point in the fight, even late in the fight, to make them back off.

what came first, the chicken or the egg?

very true which makes me think what did ron lyle do different as opposed to say a norton or frazier?

 

[djacobox372]

I was going to say Holyfield but he had some fights where he looked lke he wasn't going to make it. (at HW)

The last Bowe fight and the Toney fight come to mind.

You can't use the toney fight to judge holyfield any more than you can use the berbick fight to judge Ali. Also I don't think he had a conditioning problem against bowe, I think the punishment he took had more to do with it.

 

[cottagecheesefan]

very true which makes me think what did ron lyle do different as opposed to say a norton or frazier?

well, there is another thread going on about how ali took those body shots in his fights. Well that is the type of stamina i am talking about with foreman in his comeback. He had the MENTAL STAMINA to stay relaxed, stay focused, stick to his gameplan, and not let himself be frustrated or feel beaten at any point. Mental stamina > physical stamina.

 

[Shizzy]

Probably James Toney.

I see your Toney and raise you a Rahman.

 

[BobbyBrez]

I see your Rahman and raise you a Butterbean.

 

[Shizzy]

I see your Rahman and raise you a Butterbean.

I fold, too rich for my blood.

 

[WintersMMA]

I see your Rahman and raise you a Butterbean.

lol

james thunder anyone?

 

[evets8801]

Now way you can say Mike was the best conditioned heavyweight because he rarely went into the late rounds. I say Ali is because I've never seen Rocky.

 

[pr0ne2gr8tness]

how do these great fighters build up there conditioning to those levels is it from sparring or is it cardio/roadwork related ?

 

[Messiah Type]

Holyfield was the best conditioned of the modern era. The Bowe fights are proof of that alone. No other modern heavy could take that kind of punishment and maintain.

Frazier was pretty incredible in his prime. He could bring the heat for 15 rounds.