Best case scenario for the November Madison Square Garden card

[EJRMAN513]

GSP vs McGregor as main event. Khabib vs Tony as co main with some type of combination of the Lee/Barboza winner, Alvarez and Poirier thrown on there for when/if one of Khabib or Tony drops out but if it stay put together that's good too.

 

[VinceArch]

No interest in GSP vs Conor.

 

[krelianx]

GSP will never fight McGregor. Believe it or not, he cares about more than just money. Beating up that piece of shit would mean little.

 

[tucan89]

Best case scenario would be to scrap that event and never go back to that coveted New York market again....but that's just my opinion

 

[Ken Fresno]

GSP will never fight McGregor. Believe it or not, he cares about more than just money. Beating up that piece of shit would mean little.

 

[Robbie Corleone]

Khabib v McGregor get it done Dana

 

[KB Warrior]

Probably a good idea to keep Conor out of New York for a while.

 

[SpedDaddyV]

we are going to get 3 title fights with one probably getting pulled

TJ vs. Cody 3
Rose vs. Claudia
Khabib vs. Tony Ferguson

book em danno

Conor is waiting to see what happens with Floyd

 

[hedidhisownstunts]

Remove gsp and Conor from the possibilities.

Conor should really not be allowed to compete in the ufc anymore.

 

[theTKDguy]

Gsp vs khabib
Tj vs mm


Fuck conor

 

[LouisBolanos]

GSP will never fight McGregor. Believe it or not, he cares about more than just money. Beating up that piece of shit would mean little.

Beating up Conor McGregor would mean a hell of a lot to millions of casuals around the world, not to mention the $$$$. You and your 6 hardcore friends with opposite opinions are the ones who actually mean very little.

For years GSP has honeydicked fans regarding his retirement, never once clarifying his position in order to keep the fan interest in him alive and hence his sponsorship money rolling in. He also admitted to hiring PR people to run his social media in order to create a positive public image instead of interacting directly with fans like many/most fighters do. GSP is very shrewd and cares a lot more about money than you think he does. That's why he jumped in there and campaigned for the MW title fight hard the minute he saw Bisping fluked his way to the belt. Had Rockhold or Romero been holding the belt he would've never done it, despite the fact that beating those guys would mean a lot more to his legacy as far as hardcores are concerned.

 

[krelianx]

Beating up Conor McGregor would mean a hell of a lot to millions of casuals around the world, not to mention the $$$$. You and your 6 hardcore friends with opposite opinions are the ones who actually mean very little.

For years GSP has honeydicked fans regarding his retirement, never once clarifying his position in order to keep the fan interest in him alive and hence his sponsorship money rolling in. He also admitted to hiring PR people to run his social media in order to create a positive public image instead of interacting directly with fans like many/most fighters do. GSP is very shrewd and cares a lot more about money than you think he does. That's why he jumped in there and campaigned for the MW title fight hard the minute he saw Bisping fluked his way to the belt. Had Rockhold or Romero been holding the belt he would've never done it, despite the fact that beating those guys would mean a lot more to his legacy as far as hardcores are concerned.

No, you see, GSP doesn't care about the majority opinion. He actually cares about leaving a legacy and mark. Beating McGregor does nothing of that sort for him. He's not even champion anymore. Few think Conor would have a chance. They are not in the same league.

That children would like it changes nothing.

 

[LouisBolanos]

No, you see, GSP doesn't care about the majority opinion. He actually cares about leaving a legacy and mark. Beating McGregor does nothing of that sort for him. He's not even champion anymore. Few think Conor would have a chance. They are not in the same league.

That children would like it changes nothing.

If GSP doesn't care about the majority opinion or money, he wouldn't have hired a PR team to run his social media in order to carefully curate a public image for the larger fanbase

He wouldn't have honeydicked fans for years and refused to answer the simple question of his retirement directly. That's a clear business move to keep interest in him alive and his UnderArmour sponsorship money rolling in

He wouldn't have campaigned for the title fight against Bisping, because Bisping fluked his way into a title and is nowhere near the best MW. Someone who cares about his legacy would go against a real top MW when they hold the belt, but he never did. Remember how much he cared about his legacy and challenged Silva when he was P4P no.1 or 2? Me neither.

You're also completely delusional to think that few consider Conor even have a chance. There're millions of casuals who would bet on Conor to win, even against Floyd in boxing, let alone GSP.

The "children" who like it pay the UFC hundreds of millions, that's the main audience the UFC caters to, that's what GSP and his brand caters too. That's why the UFC isn't firing Conor, that's why they let him sit out for over 500 days before stripping him, and that's why they'll let him come back and fight anyone. You and your 6 hardcore buddies who stream UFC events for free are the ones who are irrelevant in the decision making. The UFC doesn't give a crap about you and neither does GSP because you make them exactly $0.

You're not the first nor the last "hardcore" who's bitter about the new generation of fans and fighters like Conor, living in a bubble and became out of touch with reality.

 

[ralphus1]

Best case scenario would be to scrap that event and never go back to that coveted New York market again....but that's just my opinion

Agreed, why go back to a state where the AC fucked the main event up numerous times?

 

[krelianx]

If GSP doesn't care about the majority opinion or money, he wouldn't have hired a PR team to run his social media in order to carefully curate a public image for the larger fanbase

He wouldn't have honeydicked fans for years and refused to answer the simple question of his retirement directly. That's a clear business move to keep interest in him alive and his UnderArmour sponsorship money rolling in

He wouldn't have campaigned for the title fight against Bisping, because Bisping fluked his way into a title and is nowhere near the best MW. Someone who cares about his legacy would go against a real top MW when they hold the belt, but he never did. Remember how much he cared about his legacy and challenged Silva when he was P4P no.1 or 2? Me neither.

You're also completely delusional to think that few consider Conor even have a chance. There're millions of casuals who would bet on Conor to win, even against Floyd in boxing, let alone GSP.

The "children" who like it pay the UFC hundreds of millions, that's the main audience the UFC caters to, that's what GSP and his brand caters too. That's why the UFC isn't firing Conor, that's why they let him sit out for over 500 days before stripping him, and that's why they'll let him come back and fight anyone. You and your 6 hardcore buddies who stream UFC events for free are the ones who are irrelevant in the decision making. The UFC doesn't give a crap about you and neither does GSP because you make them exactly $0.

You're not the first nor the last "hardcore" who's bitter about the new generation of fans and fighters like Conor, living in a bubble and became out of touch with reality.

Of course he cares about money. But not exclusively. He needs a fight that he genuinely thinks is significant. Beating Conor means nothing to him, because most already assume he would win, with rightful cause. The odds with Bisping were quite even. He is not the best MW, but GSP is not a MW. And Bisping was the champ. Beating Conor would be expected of GSP.

You are too stupid and colored to argue with. There are plenty of current generation fighters which would make for legacy-defining fights with GSP. Not Conor.

This is what GSP has said himself: not interested, because he doesn't feel he is good enough.

 

[LouisBolanos]

Of course he cares about money. But not exclusively. He needs a fight that he genuinely thinks is significant. Beating Conor means nothing to him, because most already assume he would win, with rightful cause. The odds with Bisping were quite even. He is not the best MW, but GSP is not a MW. And Bisping was the champ. Beating Conor would be expected of GSP.

You are too stupid and colored to argue with. There are plenty of current generation fighters which would make for legacy-defining fights with GSP. Not Conor.

You are literally talking out of your ass:

https://www.oddsshark.com/ufc/georges-st-pierre-vs-conor-mcgregor-betting-odds

Bodog -150 GSP +120 McGregor, GSP slight favorite. Most would assume he would win? Did you fail grade school math?

Now compare those odds the rest of his career:

https://www.oddsshark.com/ufc/georges-st-pierre-career-ufc-odds-history

If you had half a brain, you'd realize he's been a significantly larger favorite during most of his WW reign. The one fight that would have put him as a significant underdog was the A. Silva fight, during both of their primes, a fight which would have done more things for his legacy than any of his WW bouts, but he ducked that fight his entire reign. The fight with Conor would be far more legacy building than most his WW title fights based on the odds alone, not to mention the incomparable amount of money and fanfair that comes with it.

You are indeed too stupid and colored to argue with, literally delusional to the point of hilarity.

 

[Matthew Fedler]

Lesnar vs Jones or DC/Stipe

 

[agibmxmma]

Ppv card at MSG in Nov:
-DC/Stipe winner vs Brock main event
-Khabib vs GSP at 155 co main
-DJ vs Edgar at 135
-Tuivasa vs Ngannou
-Iaquinta vs Eddie/Justin winner

While talking about potential fight cards.. Vegas for International Fight Week July 7th card, 3 title fights on ppv card:
-DC vs Stipe main event
-Max vs Ortega co main
-Woodley vs RDA
-Pedro vs Gus

Staples Center in Aug ppv card:
-Nick Diaz vs Bisping main event
-Cody vs TJ co main
-Cruz vs Moraes/Rivera winner
-Felder or Chiesa vs Ferguson
-Emmett vs Edgar

 

[krelianx]

You are literally talking out of your ass:

https://www.oddsshark.com/ufc/georges-st-pierre-vs-conor-mcgregor-betting-odds

Bodog -150 GSP +120 McGregor, GSP slight favorite. Most would assume he would win? Did you fail grade school math?

Now compare those odds the rest of his career:

https://www.oddsshark.com/ufc/georges-st-pierre-career-ufc-odds-history

If you had half a brain, you'd realize he's been a significantly larger favorite during most of his WW reign. The one fight that would have put him as a significant underdog was the A. Silva fight, during both of their primes, a fight which would have done more things for his legacy than any of his WW bouts, but he ducked that fight his entire reign. The fight with Conor would be far more legacy building based on this alone, not to mention the incomparable amount of money and fanfair that comes with it.

You are indeed too stupid and colored to argue with, literally delusional to the point of hilarity.

You don't understand what you're talking about.

When he was reigning champion he was incredibly dominant, and so yes he was the heavy favorite most times. It stands to reason after long layoffs, being older, the odds would even out.

GSP would be significantly larger than McGregor. He was not larger than Shields, Hendricks, Koscheck, or Condit. You can say he ducked Silva if you like. It changes nothing. GSP is still the greatest of all time.

And the fact of the matter is beating Conor would not be impressive to anyone with a modicum of judgment. He just beat the MW champion. Going against a 1-1 LW, former FW, who is not even a champion anymore, would mean very little to him.

He said so himself.

 

[LouisBolanos]

You don't understand what you're talking about.

When he was reigning champion he was incredibly dominant, and so yes he was the heavy favorite most times. It stands to reason after long layoffs, being older, the odds would even out.

GSP would be significantly larger than McGregor. He was not larger than Shields, Hendricks, Koscheck, or Condit. You can say he ducked Silva if you like. It changes nothing. GSP is still the greatest of all time.

And the fact of the matter is beating Conor would not be impressive to anyone with a modicum of judgment. He just beat the MW champion. Going against a 1-1 LW, former FW, who is not even a champion anymore, would mean very little to him.

He said so himself.

The fact remains that GSP is only a slight favorite over Conor, and he was a much bigger favorite over virtually all his WW contenders, and the one fight that could have put him over as underdog, and do a lot for his legacy during his reign - the fight with Silva, was the fight he dodged forever. He also fought Bisping, the weakest MW champion in the UFC for a long time, at more or less even odds, and promptly ran away from the division when faced with the prospect of fighting a much more established MW champion who went through the grind to obtain the belt, who would be a favorite against him - Whittaker.

So everything you've said, from GSP caring about legacy and challenges, to almost no one thinking Conor would win, are all pure nonsense. All you have are your deluded opinions, with absolutely no facts to back them up. Arguments such as "And the fact of the matter is beating Conor would not be impressive to anyone with a modicum of judgment." is basically saying "if you disagree with me then your opinion is shit".

No, just because you don't think winning against Conor doesn't do anything for him, doesn't mean there aren't millions of others who disagree with you. GSP spent the latter half of his career taking easy fights, and Conor is far from the easiest. That's why the odds came out they way they are. You're not the ultimate authority of MMA, your opinion is just that, an opinion. Acting like everyone who disagrees with you have no "modicum of judgement" makes you a delusional elitist, which is pathetic and laughable.