Bent over stance in BJJ?

[Balto]

Umm, 2004 olympics, leg grabs were legal. I don't recall BJJ stance being dominant. Also, as mentioned before, lowering your base and crouching over are not the same thing rounded back crouch without lowered base just means shitty posture, and does fuck all to defend you from double legs

It's the scoring more than the restrictions, although they have since added those too.

You're probably not getting ippon off a shot. But in BJJ all takedowns are the same, so you see more shots to the legs.

Crouching is just better overall when takedowns aren't scored according to amplitude. That's why it is dominant in BJJ and Wrestling.

 

[buhriyon]

You shouldn't be bent over, bending at the knees is good if your take down game is more wrestling based, but even so your back should be straight and your head should be up.

 

[Mad Sweeps]

I train in judo, and did bjj a while back. I see a lot of bjj players bending over in the stand up game, whereas in judo I am always told to stand up straight, as the bent over stance is not a good defence. Yet I see even experienced bjj guys doing it all the time. Is it just a bad habit? Or is there an advantage to it?

ankle pick. prevent shots. much harder to get thrown. really, you dont see it?

 

[selfcritical]

It's the scoring more than the restrictions, although they have since added those too.

You're probably not getting ippon off a shot. But in BJJ all takedowns are the same, so you see more shots to the legs.

Crouching is just better overall when takedowns aren't scored according to amplitude. That's why it is dominant in BJJ and Wrestling.

Others have pointed out, but the BJJ crouch and wrestlers stance simply aren't the same. Every competent wrestler i've trained with had his lumbar spine straight and only a slight hunching the shoulders pre-tie up. And then the only reason they would crouch was BECAUSE THE OTHER PERSON WAS ACTIVELY TRYING TO BREAK THEIR POSTURE. The ass-up, spine bent of low level competitive BJJ does nothing to stop a shot and hands your opponent a deep overhook on your gi.

 

[AzRich75]

My stance is ever-evolving that is dependent purely on what I know about my opponent or how he feels within the first few moments of the grip fight. It isn't a static thing for me as I will adapt to whatever game I am going to need to fight against.

 

[Uchi Mata]

Others have pointed out, but the BJJ crouch and wrestlers stance simply aren't the same. Every competent wrestler i've trained with had his lumbar spine straight and only a slight hunching the shoulders pre-tie up. And then the only reason they would crouch was BECAUSE THE OTHER PERSON WAS ACTIVELY TRYING TO BREAK THEIR POSTURE. The ass-up, spine bent of low level competitive BJJ does nothing to stop a shot and hands your opponent a deep overhook on your gi.

Only BJJ guys with shitty stand up do that. Watch any high caliber tournaments, everyone (even if they're planning on pulling guard) is ass down head up hands in knees bent.

And for the record, I've watched a lot of terrible yellow belt Judo matches where guys just stuck their arms straight out and bent at the waist. There are beginners (or guys who just suck) in every style. It's not unique to BJJ, it just takes longer to get over because standup is trained less frequently.

 

[Commissar]

I train in judo, and did bjj a while back. I see a lot of bjj players bending over in the stand up game, whereas in judo I am always told to stand up straight, as the bent over stance is not a good defence. Yet I see even experienced bjj guys doing it all the time. Is it just a bad habit? Or is there an advantage to it?

You'll see it a lot in BJJers who aren't experienced at the standup game, just as you'll see it in new judoka.

The bent over stance is a good defense against another person with less than good takedowns (ie. new judoka, or another BJJer with less than awesome standup). Alternatively, you may also see "stiff arming".